Forwandert
Lieutenant-General
The paper background on the app version just doesn't look finished with any definition. I think they would look slightly better matched to the messages tab where each line is defined a little more.
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Kate dPigin
Private
Even if GvG players are "freeriding dinosaurs", the game would fall apart without us. That kind of players actually keep the game together and competitive. When there is a competition, people have the desire to be better, have higher boost and more units to be better which drives people to spend money.
Also, most good guilds were founded are actually being lead by those same dinosaurs.
So, please explain, if the dinosaurs, who are leading top guilds, stop playing and the competition dies down, what happens with the game?
We will all join you very soon.
Praeceptor
Lieutenant Colonel
I've just checked the stats on my main server - someone did over 5000 fights again yesterday - so that delay nerf worked well didn't it?
I hate to say it, but WE TOLD YOU SO!
I hate to say it, but WE TOLD YOU SO!
TheKingOfKool
General
The "Exploits" we think they want to stop - Are Not "The Exploits" they want to stop. And they won't tell us exactly what they are trying to stop - only that it's an exploit. As someone mentioned a page or two back, the game is an exploit if you put the effort into to it to level your GB's.
When PvA 1st came out - What did they try to do - Deactivate some battle GB's like the artic orangey.
Longevity in a game like this is considered an exploit - my 7-8 years or so - An Exploit - So they won't say
When PvA 1st came out - What did they try to do - Deactivate some battle GB's like the artic orangey.
Longevity in a game like this is considered an exploit - my 7-8 years or so - An Exploit - So they won't say
Knight of ICE
You can do fights without doing RQ's.
Everybody keeps going on that the delay has to do with cheaters. That is a player thought. Inno never stated that to be the reason for it.
Praeceptor
Lieutenant Colonel
You can't do over 5000 fights a day without using RQs.
Inno did state the reason for it - check the beta forum.
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Goremise
Lieutenant-General
Actually they did, that was the one and only reason they gave on the beta forums.
Quote:
"This is not a bug.
This delay has been added to prevent exploiting of the recurring questline."
Is there another reason then besides the one that was told to us by the CM on beta?
Goremise
Lieutenant-General
Also exactly, 5k fights is impossible in a day without the spamable RQ that you can spam, with or without exploits.
So they "are" nerfing every single age in the entire game and every player in the entire game, because of a new quest they added in SAAB instead of just removing said quest.
So they "are" nerfing every single age in the entire game and every player in the entire game, because of a new quest they added in SAAB instead of just removing said quest.
Knight of ICE
Yes, that is one CM saying: " to prevent exploiting of the recurring questline".
Doing the UBQ over and over again, by clicking manually can also be considered exploiting that quest. Nowhere does it mention cheating, macros or quests in SAAB as people seem to think. This isn't the first attempt to make doing RQ's less profitable, but nobody seems to see that.
Praeceptor
Lieutenant Colonel
If this is an attempt at making RQs less profitable, tell that to the guys doing over 5000 fights every day. Inno must think we're stupid.
Knight of ICE
Do they have to do the RQ';s, to make it possible to do that number of fights?
Praeceptor
Lieutenant Colonel
I am a top 10 fighter with an amazingly powerful army, and the best I have managed in 12 hours of play is 2000 fights and that required plenty of RQs. You might be able to do double that, but not every day.
Knight of ICE
So you can not do 2000 fights without doing the RQ's?
Praeceptor
Lieutenant Colonel
I could easily - but only if I had people setting up loads of armies for me to hit in GvG. Every day. My guildmates would soon tire of that. And besides, the players I'm talking about are doing more than double that.
Knight of ICE
Point is, just because they do that number of fights it does not mean they do the RQ's as well. RQ's are not mandatory.
PeePee Pleb
Lieutenant
GbG is also very popular for farming fights, tho you need to invest resources to be able to steadily fight (goods for building SCs, for example). Before SAAB arrived, I noticed that number of fights blasted for some top players. GvG is also a good source for farming fights, but not so popular anymore.
Praeceptor
Lieutenant Colonel
Exactly - it's the investment required that limits the fights in GbG (and GvG to some extent)
Doing many thousands of fights in a day is possible, but not sustainable without RQs. Let's not get nit-picky about it. We all know that is true.
PeePee Pleb
Lieutenant
Fighting through a RQ, then aborting it, just don't give you any actual benefits for your city, GbG can at least give you that, and benefits are very juicy (it is, in my opinion, best source of FPs that makes the grind of attack boost even more worth it). RQs are useful if you complete them, that's why players skyrocket their CF. Tho, even with the latest update and the additional delay, you can still do something and gather quite some resources using RQs, but just aborting them without actually getting reward just to get ranking points is...well not worth it.
Praeceptor
Lieutenant Colonel
All true - I couldn't agree more.
So why the clumsy attempt to prevent RQ abuse which patently hasn't worked? The fighting RQs are just an easy way of measuring the failure to tackle the problem effectively.