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For the same reason why the rule "Having a friend create an account for the sole purpose of donating goods/Forge Points" is in the section "Playing on a shared connection".
What reason is that?
For the same reason why the rule "Having a friend create an account for the sole purpose of donating goods/Forge Points" is in the section "Playing on a shared connection".
Because the rules are badly written. I don't know whether it's due to lack of time, multiple modifications, or something else, but I hope that the next set of rules that Blacksmith & Co. are working right now will be better formulated.What reason is that?
I have to disagree. Some time ago mods explicitly stated that multi-world FP trade is "allowed but frowned upon". If the actions were allowed at the time they were performed, they are not punishable. No ex post facto laws.Some of this I mentioned on the first day, but it was never fully addressed.
all cheating players should be penalized.
No if, ands or buts about it.
Cheating needs to be dealt with swiftly across the board without exception.
You are aware of players using the FP push since the GBs were first introduced.
These players especially should be penalized as they have been gaining in every-way
possible without penalty. Makes little sense to just punish those who didn't "stop" at the
warning. They cheated they get penalized. Otherwise re-instate those players who had
actions taken against them. No room for bias here.
They should not be allowed to continue to "prosper" from their ill-gotten buildings, it puts the entire
community of "honest" players at a great disadvantage.
In essence we the "law abiding" players are being punished every time they gain resources, medals, forge points etc from their wrongfully obtained buildings. This includes those that stopped after the warning. They still have illegitimate buildings assisting them every pvp battle, sector, and any other gain they make is another "slap in the face" to those playing by the rules. Complete retroactive rollback is the only way for this issue to be fairly resolved. It was done for the points structure, it can be implemented here too.
I have to disagree. Some time ago mods explicitly stated that multi-world FP trade is "allowed but frowned upon". If the actions were allowed at the time they were performed, they are not punishable. No ex post facto laws.
No because of the mishaps with the announcement and forum discussions I am ignoring all actions taken before the announcement was given. Like a grace period for players. I have talked about this for almost 2 months in the forums and Archangel gave an announcement in game on the 12th which I believe to be extremely nice and a good line drawn in the sand as of the 12th.If we are now aware of the rules and no longer donate to each other will this affect donations given before the the 7th(Is that the date?)??
In-game rules; said:5) Account trading
It is not allowed to play accounts for commercial purposes. It is not allowed to sell, buy or offer accounts or parts of accounts in exchange for Premium points or any other outside benefit. Trades involving more than one game world are also forbidden. Such instances can result in a ban.
If you mean - punish everyone who did this after the rules were updated, then I have no objections here. I just understood your original post as if you want to punish even those who did it before the update and stopped after that ("You are aware of players using the FP push since the GBs were first introduced.").The rules have been updated - punishments are occuring for infractions after the change and not from before.
Anyway, the rules explicitly state that trading across world is not allowed:
5) Account trading
It is not allowed to play accounts for commercial purposes. It is not allowed to sell, buy or offer accounts or parts of accounts in exchange for Premium points or any other outside benefit. Trades involving more than one game world are also forbidden. Such instances can result in a ban.
So, if you are still trading across worlds then you are breaking the rules and can be punished for these infractions.
I have to disagree. Some time ago mods explicitly stated that multi-world FP trade is "allowed but frowned upon". If the actions were allowed at the time they were performed, they are not punishable. No ex post facto laws.
Wilberham: I agree that pushing of any kind is against the spirit of the game, but the spirit of the game is not official rules. Players asked explicitly about multi-world FP transfer, the mods explicitly said that it is allowed (rule 8, interpretation of the rules by the mods, "Their interpretation of these rules is final"). New rules can't act retroactively, I think you will agree. Case closed.
Blacksmith: Players are asking the same thing because they don't understand. They are asking it over and over again because previous explanations didn't bring any clarity.
What about situation, while we have 3 players (with 3 acounts on each world):
P1 (main account in world A),
P2 (main account in world B),
P3 (main account in world C).
and P1 gives fps to P2, P2 gives fps to P3 and P3 gives fps to P1 ???
As you can see there is no direct exchange between them.
And it is easy to create more advanced system for 6, 8, 12 players....so on.
below system for 8 players (4 worlds) with non-direct support:
Please excuse me if this has been asked before: Let's say someone in my guild has a GB removed on account of pushing. What happens to the FP I donated to this building, are they lost? That would seem a little unfair.
Contact support. I keep a list of the fp in buildings and who donated what in gb I deleted that had more than 50 fp in the current level it was on. I got electronic post its all over my monitor with tons of info on them. I will clean them off when I wake up though if I dont have any people asking. Though those that try to claim fp that doesnt match my notes will be spanked and sat on most horribly.Just a short question:
I am only active in one world so I am not affected by most of the things mentioned in this thread.
BUT what would happen if I donated FP towards a GB of a 'pushed' account - I simply don't have a chance to figure out if an account has been pushed.
Now you would go ahead and remove this peticular GB I donated towards - so what would happen to my donated FP?
I know - small chance - but still possible
my systems will look like 'random' .If it's random then there should be no issue.