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What kind of detection tool do you need to read your own forum?Inno has better detection tools than five years ago
What kind of detection tool do you need to read your own forum?Inno has better detection tools than five years ago
i've been telling what CF can do long time before i build one, and i've also suggested attrition on CF in an idea that got forwarded about a year ago !
There are differing opinions on forums that don't necessarily reflect those who prefer to play the game.What kind of detection tool do you need to read your own forum?
Can not find any such idea. Can you link to it?
What does this have to do with Inno taking at least four or five years to notice how CF works?There are differing opinions on forums that don't necessarily reflect those who prefer to play the game.
Those who have spent 1000000's FP's levelling CF are going to feel bad now, a few may leave but it won't stop new players from joining.
It was quite expected that there will be players that are just extremely heavily impacted by the change.There are differing opinions on forums that don't necessarily reflect those who prefer to play the game.
Those who have spent 1000000's FP's levelling CF are going to feel bad now, a few may leave but it won't stop new players from joining.
Where do you draw the line, though? What is an exploit, and what isn't? One would think that if a strategy has been around for years and years, then it's not an exploit. Will Inno notice that people actually attack other players in the game and then remove that ability? If you think about it, attacking someone else in the game has to be an exploit... Maybe Inno doesn't even know yet that people attack others!It was quite expected that there will be players that are just extremely heavily impacted by the change.
The thing is, if you invested so many resources in something that was even near an actual exploit, you also need to be aware that you are going to suffer if it gets "fixed".
Regarding Chateau, it was pretty obvious from the moment we've been talking about it as a "perpetual motion machine" that it is somewhat being exploited.
Yes, the nerf came after a long time, following the recent problems with SAAB fighting quest, but it came. The fact that it took so long for it to be fixed doesn't mean it actually wasn't an exploit.
An exploit, such as this RQ one, was not an exploit of CF or an exploit of RQ, but rather an exploit of the combination of the two. Any time you have something that basically gives a player unlimited returns, is very much an exploit - as it is on just about any gaming system. It is questionable why it too so long to have this adjusted (since it is not really fixed yet) and the only opinion I can make, is that there was disagreement among the Inno team as to exactly how they should fix it, so they came to some kind of agreement to limit the exploit (for now, because it most likely can be adjusted again), so they have done this RQ limit and will spend some time seeing what the data shows before deciding on any further change.Where do you draw the line, though? What is an exploit, and what isn't? One would think that if a strategy has been around for years and years, then it's not an exploit. Will Inno notice that people actually attack other players in the game and then remove that ability? If you think about it, attacking someone else in the game has to be an exploit... Maybe Inno doesn't even know yet that people attack others!
And back to this refund again, why should it be an option? And if they do 'refund' you, what about the other players that also invested in your CF? What about all the other benefits you would have received from CF over the period of time - where did all the goods, coins, diamonds and everything else go that you received? All that should be reverted as well. All your player points that can be somehow attributed to your CF should also be removed. All those other players that benefitted from what you received should be removed as well. A refund is not necessarily as simple as it sounds. And if you were to receive an option for a refund, why shouldn't everything else affected be taken back as well?considering that i didn't developed the game and there wasn't any kind of announcement introducing any kind of nurf in any update, yes i'd appreciate the option to get a refund as comphersation to my time invested focusing a CF just because Quests where unlimited.
because i've invested time in a strategy available 6? years, that they decided to remove with no refairence anywhere !And back to this refund again, why should it be an option?
Considering it is a Long Term Game, and nobody will carry stones, they should spend some effort for their players and make them understand that they care for them and understand the impact the change has on them ! I'm sure players will appreciate that stance !!And if they do 'refund' you, what about the other players that also invested in your CF?
Most of them are in my inventory - they might aswell have them, though i believe we didn't exploited an "once weeks bug" , we picked a playstyle that was open to everyone in both game and forums. I wouldn't appreciate to pay for a game design "hole" that was left open for years, but if they want my goods they free to have them.What about all the other benefits you would have received from CF over the period of time - where did all the goods, coins, diamonds and everything else go that you received? All that should be reverted as well.
Yes mate, let them have them. You think i care for ranking .. ? or i would have camped in the lower Eras if i wanted points ? lolAll your player points that can be somehow attributed to your CF should also be removed. All those other players that benefitted from what you received should be removed as well. A refund is not necessarily as simple as it sounds. And if you were to receive an option for a refund, why shouldn't everything else affected be taken back as well?
So i lost all that effort to make my CF 50lvl in a year, to wait another 1 year for the next era where maybe CF will has vallue again ?And moving forwards, who knows what will be coming up in the near future, next Age or whatever else becomes available, that the CF will have a favorable position to be used.
Attacking other players doesn't give you an "infinite" and enormous benefit.Where do you draw the line, though? What is an exploit, and what isn't? One would think that if a strategy has been around for years and years, then it's not an exploit. Will Inno notice that people actually attack other players in the game and then remove that ability? If you think about it, attacking someone else in the game has to be an exploit... Maybe Inno doesn't even know yet that people attack others!
I wouldn't appreciate to pay for a game design "hole" that was left open for years, but if they want my goods they free to have them.
Attacking other players doesn't give you an "infinite" and enormous benefit.
Chateau basically makes the time you can invest in game an only limit for it's abuse. So, with very high level CF you can basically do RQs all day and get tremendous anounts of resources in return for the time spent doing them.
i always helped new players without having CF in my City and who played on N knows better than anyone what kind of player i am.Goods will be harder to get now, but not that hard, the hole is still there but not so big.
Why not help out some new players with making their GB's or giving back to the game that has given you so much.
As you have benefited from the exploit for some years, it's understandable how you feel; you could try to help others who will never have the advantages you got and gain everlasting respect.
i played the game within the game rulles with 0 cheating - if you want to call me exploiter, sorry, find something else to play withYou took advantage of (exploited) a loophole in the game and gained tremendous amounts of resources from it, and now that Inno have narrowed the loophole, you want a refund on the fps you've invested to be able to exploit the system?
Exploit means to "take advantage of". If you take advantage of a weak or flawed of frail feature in the game, yes, then you are an exploiter. So am I - and a lot of other players :-) It's not cheating though, of course. Inno made it possible.i played the game within the game rulles with 0 cheating - if you want to call me exploiter, sorry, find something else to play with
Yes since Inno wants to claim "loopholes" after 6 years, i'd appreciate their sorry with a refund.
yes inno made an exploitable system of Quests (pretty much like Battlegrounds i think i have a screen with 3.000 FP's in my Bar) you want to call me exploiter ?
how you'd call the devs then ? Balancers ? hahaha
oh - and since you are an old player, you know whats the difference between romanians and bulgarians ? if you answer that, ill take your oppinions on exploiting seriusly - till then have your personal oppinions without "you's" in them, i never sold a single FP or Good for money
yes i feel exploited thanksExploit means to "take advantage of". If you take advantage of a weak or flawed of frail feature in the game, yes, then you are an exploiter. So am I - and a lot of other players :-) It's not cheating though, of course. Inno made it possible.
But to demand a refund on the resources you/we have spent to exploit a vulnerable feature in the game, when Inno try to limit the exploitation, is absurd.
my CF is 94lvl , make it 60lvl, take all my goods from my inventory, and give me the owners leveling costs from 60 till 94lvl.How would you even calculate a fair refund? You'd have to subtract all the benefits the player has gained through the exploit.