Ati2
Legend
When it takes 3-4 years for Inno to notice how people are playing their game, I seriously doubt the above statement.
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Knight of ICE
When it takes 3-4 years for Inno to notice how people are playing their game, I seriously doubt the above statement.
Why? Time for them to notice it, is not relevant to the delay being a bug or intentional.
Ati2
Legend
There are two possibilities. One: it really took them 3-4 years to notice. Two: it didn't take them 3-4 years, but they felt like letting people build their cities, give them more money, before ruining years of their gameplay.
Are you suggesting it's number two?
Knight of ICE
3. New unlimited RQs brought it to their attention that players were exploiting the CF/RQ combo resulting in server load and players getting massive amounts of resources. Resources that make it easy for them to reach the end of a new age in no time.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
Cursedveggie
Legend
But wasn't this was done before the new era was released
Knight of ICE
Exactly. Nice timing don't you think?
Cursedveggie
Legend
It's the way you wrote it, makes it sound like they noticed because people finished SAV quickly.
This has always been the case so still not sure why it was only done now, there's not that many people with really high CFs and the real exploit is the unlimited fighting quest which could have simply been removed instead
Ati2
Legend
This makes no sense. If I have a high server-load, I see it immediately. It doesn't take three years to notice that gee, I've had high server-loads for the entire past three years.
Knight of ICE
Maybe, maybe not. To tackle the point scoring in two waves battles, you now only get double points for the second wave. Not the most logical way to deal with it as many have stated.
UBQ was removed from later age RQ's. Fighting exploit was introduced. Maybe that made the difference.
Ati2
Legend
So they introduced an exploit, and instead of fixing it, they decided to go ahead, and while at it, ruin the game of other people, too, who are nowhere near that exploit.
Still doesn't make any sense.
r21r
Major-General
in SAAB they could produce a lot coins/supplies with the fighting quest and they where spending nothing for it.
still poor decision to nerf everything cause of bad planning impo.
they still make thousands FP's daily, only goods production has kinda been limited.
ye, i hope they put some effort and find better solution
Cursedveggie
Legend
That's been like that (or similar) since 2 wave battles were introduced.
There are 2 fighting RQs, both to win a battle and either do 8hr productions or collect goods (depending on which RQ) the exploit was people doing the fight for the battle points then aborting the rest of the quest.
To stop or limit this they effectively nerfed the CF
klods hans
Tsar
So many speculations and assumptions flying around. Would be nice if Inno gave us more clear and thorough explanations than their vague "to stop an exploit". What exactly does that mean? Which exploit(s) exactly?
Well, that's probably not going to happen. So let's just keep on making up our own explanations about the reasoning behind Inno's decisions...
Well, that's probably not going to happen. So let's just keep on making up our own explanations about the reasoning behind Inno's decisions...
Knight of ICE
Neither does your argument. You have no idea how or why they made this decision. You are only making assumptions. So far they seem to be fine with this "fix". You do not even know it is about the fighting exploit. I just mentioned it as a possible reason they have seen an increased server load.
Ati2
Legend
Oh, I certainly know about the how. Without thinking of the consequences.
Knight of ICE
Oh, I certainly know about the how. Without thinking of the consequences.
Again, that is just your view on it. It's only what you think you know. I could claim they have thought about the consequences and decided those were no reason to not go forward with the "fix" and I would be speculating as much as you are.
Ati2
Legend
If that were the case, they wouldn't have backed off and come up with a different solution after the first change caused mass hysteria.
Knight of ICE
If that were the case, they wouldn't have backed off and come up with a different solution after the first change caused mass hysteria.
Really??
They backed off???
Delay didn't effect the app players and for players on PC with a fast connection it was really no big thing at all. The different solution effects every one. I would not call that backing off. Seems more like stepping up.
Ati2
Legend
Did they remove the delay? Yes.
And please don't come with the "it was a bug" explanation. You don't introduce a fixed delay by accident. But even if someone was drunk and thought it was a good joke, they should have caught it in beta, since everyone saw it there and commented on it. Inno still let it out to the live servers.
Knight of ICE
Did they come up with something else? Yes.
You got me there. That was a first. Not like that has ever happened before, or that they did explain that time between beta and live servers is to short to prevent this from happening.