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Question about | Dont Break the rules |

DeletedUser

Great Building pushing
This is defined as having forge points donated to your great building by an account that is either created for this purpose or at an alarming rate.
One player donate for about 100 fp in my GB , when I asked him why he doing that,he said that he have 4 accounts. I report him Immediately and he got banned . But ...
EDIT : I forgot to say , his accounts all had totaly diferent names,but he was "smart" to tell me that he just have 4 accounts. I didnt know all names,but admins find them all and he got banned.
(hate cheaters)

The penalty for this is removal of every great building that has been affected in this manner in any way. This even means if that account has only donated 1 forge point to your great building. The best way to avoid this is to know who is donating to you.
This is kinda silly. I need to ask anyone who donate to any of my Great Buildings why he doing that ?
From time to time when I hunting an GB i know to donate 10-20 or even 30 forge point to someone (depents how high reward i will get when his GB lvl up)
No I wont believe that some maniac has all of a sudden decided to put 200 forge points into one level of the great building and you knew nothing about it.
Do am I maniac if i donate 10-20 or max 30 fp to someones great building from my guild/friend list or neighbourhood? :(
If you are unsure about someone then feel free to contact support
Does that mean,we have to report anyone who donate 1 or more forge point to our GB just to be sure that he is not an cheater ?

Chat Room
The chat room rules are fairly simple. Basically show respect to others and keep the language and topics civil. This is a family game and as such we like to keep things family orientated. If you want to talk about subjects that are more adult themed then please use another medium to communicate with each other.
My guild is an internation guild ,we have players from all over the world. In guild message we use to speak English,Serbian,Croatian,Bosnian ... and noone feel bad because of it. But there is bad people all around the world
and what if someone join to guild just because he want to set up someone ban ,because he is jealously ... ?

This is very good game and I like to play it, but rules are a bit ... hmm... indefinitely ?

New Rebel , cheers !
 
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DeletedUser

My guild is an internation guild ,we have players from all over the world. In guild message we use to speak English,Serbian,Croatian,Bosnian ... and noone feel bad because of it. But there is bad people all around the world
and what if someone join to guild just because he want to set up someone ban ,because he is jealously ... ?

The rules clearly state that English should be used, if you choose to ignore that within your guild and open yourselves up to the risk you have highlighted, then that is your choice.
 

DeletedUser

Some believe the rules are strict, some believe the rules are lax. Example, someone gets to the top of their neighborhood 'by hook or by crook' and eventually gets caught. He gets a 3 day ban and laughs his way back to the top of the tower.

So you say: This is very good game and I like to play it, but rules are a bit ... hmm.

And I say: This is a very good game and I like to play it, but too many people look for ways to avoid getting caught breaking the rules rather than just obeying the spirit of them.
 

DeletedUser1983

I agree with Gross... I think rules are simple enough to understand in most scenarios. What Blacksmith says is that when you feel there is enough reason to be suspicious, you need to be proactive about it and report that suspicious behavior to the support team rather than be quiet about it and let the moderators find it themselves. If you are proactive in reporting any doubtful behavior, only the players committing such breach of rules will be punished. If you are a silent observer benefiting from such breach, you will also be punished. Watching a crime and doing nothing about it is the same as committing a crime, at least where I am from.
 

DeletedUser

Some believe the rules are strict, some believe the rules are lax.
I'm one of those who believe that rules are lax , but now I will pay more attencion on game ,because rules are a bit stricter then i mean. :D

@FacetiousMIke , I just told my guild master about guild message rules .
We don't have any problem in guild,but better to be carefull in time.
 

DeletedUser8994

Some believe the rules are strict, some believe the rules are lax. Example, someone gets to the top of their neighborhood 'by hook or by crook' and eventually gets caught. He gets a 3 day ban and laughs his way back to the top of the tower.

So you say: This is very good game and I like to play it, but rules are a bit ... hmm.

And I say: This is a very good game and I like to play it, but too many people look for ways to avoid getting caught breaking the rules rather than just obeying the spirit of them.
I have to totally agree with GrossEyeEh. It looks dodgy to me when people have their GB's maxed out by the same player's all the time. I have had these thoughts for some time now about some in my hood.
The reason I have these thoughts is that I am in a very large guild and also have quite a lot of friends. I have only 2 GB's and its taken me 7 months to get one of them maxed out. The other is at level 6. It seems very lucky to me that some can get 5 or 6 GB's maxed out in what appears to be no time at all.
Rant over.
 

DeletedUser3157

I have to totally agree with GrossEyeEh. It looks dodgy to me when people have their GB's maxed out by the same player's all the time. I have had these thoughts for some time now about some in my hood.
The reason I have these thoughts is that I am in a very large guild and also have quite a lot of friends. I have only 2 GB's and its taken me 7 months to get one of them maxed out. The other is at level 6. It seems very lucky to me that some can get 5 or 6 GB's maxed out in what appears to be no time at all.
Rant over.

A lot about getting GBs leveled faster is also about socializing and networking. If you make proper friendships with some people and if people in your guild tend to know and like you, they will be much much more likely choosing your building (opposed to ala #53 guy on the guild list who has never said a word in guild msges/forum/chat and last visited your town 4 months ago).

I remember a high ranked loner diamond player in my world. Everyone else didn't really like him and thought he was arrogant and whatnot. But I helped him out with some trades and advice etc got talking, and turns out he was just some nice quiet ex military bloke not too much into socializing etc. I saw literally thousands of FPs from him over next half a year, super loyal.

Also helps a lot if you are in some sort of position of power where you are respected and/or maybe even feared a bit(leader of the guild, biggest player in guild, etc). Players in authority position will always be at avantage in regards to getting GBs leveled and P/M rate, admit they it or not, it is just in human nature. So in that sense in regards to getting GBs leveled up faster, it is sometimes better to be the big fish in a small sea than small fish in big sea.

One of the best ways for a power player to make friends is also using his goods stock to help out other players, guild leaders etc. If you have thousands of goods, it won't really hurt you giving away few hundred here and there in hopes that the player remembers it and maybe feels a bit in debt in future, choosing your GB as one of his/her targets.

Some players plunder the neighbors who do not donate into their GBs. I used their possible inability to produce the needed goods and hence the possible excistance of excess FPs in order to arrange benafical trades for them based on the amount of FPs they donate me. I find it a somewhat more effective alernative to the terror/fear strategy and more win-win for both sides. And to be honest, I have never been a harsh plunderer in my hood. This has prolly cost me due to not frustrating enough dead weight neighbors to quit the game, making me stuck in a poorer hood further away from merge, costing me potentsial PvP and rank points. But on other hand, I have seen many of them often in my GBs.

Another key element which helps quicker growth is being one of the first ones in your world or guild to build some spefic building - it will go up faster then.

It is also good if you can keep the GBs moving, trying to keep the momentum, maybe arranging FP deals with guildmates or whatever - most BP seekers love the 'in movement' GBs and are always willing to jump along if they see they are not alone actively donating into some GB. Couple of months ago I built St Marks and Lighthouse on 7 worlds(14 total) with super casual FP investment, and activity of movement was always one of the key factors when choosing target GB - would rather invest 30 FPs to get a BP in 3 days than invest 1 into a dead one and hope someone will level it few months later landing you a cheap BP(altho that is viable strat for 2nd priority GBs).

I have donated away all the FPs I make for months to my guildmates. And how do I choose the targets? Even trying to be fair, every time when I'm in a hurry or whatnot and can't choose proper, I tend to discover myself donating the FPs to the people who are most active, social and/or power players in my guild - generally the ppl I like. So I think the social factor is one of the biggest ones of them all.
 

DeletedUser

That was great replay from you hint,also help a lot to us who just start building GBs. Right now i have 4 GB-s.
1. Zeus (have it for a month or more) 2. Lighthouse of Alexandria (lvl 2, have it for about 3 weeks)
3. Colloseum (lvl 2, have it for about a week) 4. Haghia Sophia (lvl 1, have it for about a week) .
My GB-s dont lvling fast , but they are growing thx to my friends and guild.

And thank to all who ever reply something about my quiestion,but my main question is still out of any answer ...
 

DeletedUser276

This is kinda silly. I need to ask anyone who donate to any of my Great Buildings why he doing that ?
Does that mean,we have to report anyone who donate 1 or more forge point to our GB just to be sure that he is not an cheater ?

Well if you see something and its suspicious then yes. If your suddenly getting tons of bp from someone that may set off some alarms... or if their accounts are named Bob1, bob2, bob3 etc then I would be highly suspicious. You wouldnt believe how many people have replied back to me with... how was I to know those bob accounts were the same person. What am I psychic. I just chuckle shake my head and ignore their appeals from that point on.

too many people sit there and go... well I am not cheating.. they are. I will accept all the points and not say a word. for example I just took away some great buildings from a player in Houndsmoor. 6 of them I believe. He had a "friend" who had a "friend" create am account there solely for the donations to the great building. Then he kept his mouth shut because greed came in and he thought. cool free fp to level faster. Now he sits in the dark in his room muttering to himself rocking back and forth about how evil I am and how unfair this game is blah blah. Well maybe not like that but you get the idea ;)

In the end we just ask players to use common sense. While whats common sense to one person may not be to another the common sense we ask for here is the most basic kind. If you report a player the chances of you getting your gb's penalized are fairly minimal... depending how long the charade went on for and how obvious it is that the people involved knew all about what was going on. Thats where our common sense comes in.

I am the main penalizer of great buildings because I have the most experience. I have done this type of work for almost 7 years pretty much 7 days a week the whole time. (may be why I am a bit blunt when dealing with people) So I pretty much know what to look for and what players can try to get away with. But as I have said many many many times. If I am not 100% certain of guilt then I wont punish.


My guild is an internation guild ,we have players from all over the world. In guild message we use to speak English,Serbian,Croatian,Bosnian ... and noone feel bad because of it. But there is bad people all around the world
and what if someone join to guild just because he want to set up someone ban ,because he is jealously ... ?

The best bet in that case is to not speak in other languages in guild chat. I understand that English may not be the first language of players but they must understand it to a point to be able to get their way through the game. You shouldnt feel bad for speaking a language your comfortable with but mods cannot do their job properly when they have to run discussions through an online translator as they are horrible and imprecise. That is why we have an English only rule.
 

DeletedUser1983

A lot about getting GBs leveled faster is also about socializing and networking.

End of story. It's all about how you plan your cities, GBs, etc. and how you manage to find people who would help you raise your GBs without breaking any rules or even venturing into grey areas. If you have only 2 GBs, you are very less likely to have several investors donating on your GBs. If you have multiple GBs, people like to make it a one-stop shop to get their GB hunt focused on just one player's GBs. Lastly, if you (not you Hint) haven't managed to use your neighborhood to your advantage, well then you will always feel left behind.
 

DeletedUser

Thanks for all reply , we are almost finish with this thread ...
Just one more think about chat rules...
Chat Room
The chat room rules are fairly simple. Basically show respect to others and keep the language and topics civil. This is a family game and as such we like to keep things family orientated. If you want to talk about subjects that are more adult themed then please use another medium to communicate with each other.
That is all correct,and in global chat we all should speak only English because this is English server/game,or what ever you want to call it.
But... in guild messages and guild chat should be allowed to speak any language. Guild is like a home,and all guild members
are like family,so if players in that guild don't have problem to read any language , why should that be problem to an moderator?
If someone join to some guild,and he don't like guild politics(rules) he can simply quit .
In my guild , we have very simple rules, and our guild members all from all over the world,and they accept to see some other language then English, but my guild mates are little worried now , because we use to speak Serbian,Croatian,Bosnian...
 

DeletedUser276

That is all correct,and in global chat we all should speak only English because this is English server/game,or what ever you want to call it.

So what would you say mods should do if someone breaks the rules in the chat and get offended by one person who is extremely rude or crass and clicks report and the mods get the chat history? We need to be able to read any potential rule break in the game to adequately handle the situation.

in guild messages and guild chat should be allowed to speak any language. Guild is like a home,and all guild members
are like family,so if players in that guild don't have problem to read any language , why should that be problem to an moderator?
If someone join to some guild,and he don't like guild politics(rules) he can simply quit .

Say I wanted to join your guild... I dont speak Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian...... but I am a great player and win tons of battles.. trade like theres no tomorrow. You are effectively telling me that I am being discriminated against on an English server for not speaking other languages? The difference is (cuz I know someones going to say we are discriminating against others who speak other langauges...) this is the English server. its set for English Communication. We also have a German server... and a Russian server and in those you need to only write in Russian or German respectively. Yes I know there is not a Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian server.. mostly because there isnt enough pull for it from the player base.
 

DeletedUser

Like i said, it's okey to use only English in global chat,but in guild ... where we should be all like family,its silly ...
In my guild we use to speak few languages and no one have problem with that .
But after I read all of this , I let my guild founder to know that we can be banned because we don't write only English in guild messages. Thanks for reply. Thread can be closed.

Wishes are wishes , rules are rules and we must respect them. :)
 
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DeletedUser8994

End of story. It's all about how you plan your cities, GBs, etc. and how you manage to find people who would help you raise your GBs without breaking any rules or even venturing into grey areas. If you have only 2 GBs, you are very less likely to have several investors donating on your GBs. If you have multiple GBs, people like to make it a one-stop shop to get their GB hunt focused on just one player's GBs. Lastly, if you (not you Hint) haven't managed to use your neighborhood to your advantage, well then you will always feel left behind.
KnocKpg I dont feel left behind at all. I have managed to construct my city and have 2 GB's. I am at the end of the tech-tree, and almost at the end of the world map.
The point I was trying to make was I feel it is very lucky for a person to receive over 200 FP's all the time, from the same person.
Think about it, what can they be doing with their own city if they are giving so much away? They are simply serving (slaves) for the King/Queen.
I know that I would not do that and I think almost all other players would not do it.
Sorry but "socialising and networking" is frankly naive or gullible, whichever word you want to use.
I dont mean to offend, this is just my opinion.
 

DeletedUser

I just want to add one point.

In a couple of the worlds I invested too many fp in research. I got to IndA with no gb and could not produce enough coins and supplies to go any further. I then had to go and find people with St Marks and Lighthouse where I could invest 100s of fp. Why? Because I like the buildings where I can win 3 'different' bps for that exact building. It means I could have been investing over 200 fp in your Lighthouse with no communication and no return expected.

You may be shocked to find some neighbor or guild mate doing that. You may feel you should report me for possible cheating. Yes! I agree! If it looks suspicious to you then you should let a mod look into it. As I am doing nothing wrong I have nothing to fear and it is in your best interests to report suspicious activity. Who knows, it may have been a test.
 

DeletedUser16845

My friend donate his fp for me in one world, and I do the same for him in another world, is it legal ?
 

DeletedUser

Definitely not legal Mellow. You will both lose the great building when caught.
 

DeletedUser7897

Mellow, my explanation is as follows:
NOT LEGAL: if you have that account only to donate him FPs and you dont play there
LEGAL: you both play on both worlds and you donate him some FPs on one world and he returns them on another. You are both an active players on both worlds. If one of you have an account only for GB pushing and is not active on that world than you can both be punished.

Blacksmith will tell if I'm correct or not
 

DeletedUser

My friend donate his fp for me in one world, and I do the same for him in another world, is it legal ?

From the in-game rules (link under the rules button on the top-right of this forum):
In-Game rules; said:
4) Account trading

... Trades involving more than one game world are also forbidden. Such instances can result in a ban.

So not legal (whether you are active on both worlds or not).
 

DeletedUser7719

Had one player ingame that got fps on one world then gave fps to the same player on another world. Their argument was that the person was at Iron Age so should be beyond the point of being a push account. I dont think he read the part in the rules about cross world trading. Its a no no even if both parties are in Colonial or Industrial age.
who needs a five character limit?
 
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