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Himeji Castle (HC) and Space Carrier (SC)

Anybody else noticed the returns on HC and SC wins are very poor and sometimes non existent? Mine are level 70 and 66 and I am wondering if they are a waste of time now.
 

Emberguard

Legend
They're actually very good GBs for the returns. They are however on a random chance so sometimes they'll pay out big, other times not so much.

It also depends somewhat on your needs / play style. Do you need the Rogues, Goods and if you get rid of the HC do you have a sufficient income of Supplies without it? Are you doing sufficient battles / negotiations to use up the charges each day from Himeji + Space Carrier?


Feel free to do your own math if you believe I'm doing it wrong, but here's my figures:

  • 10 Forge Points (25%) = (10 / 100) x 25 = 2.5
  • 50 Forge Points (12%) = (50 / 100) x 12 = 6
  • 200 Forge Points (5%) = (200 / 100) x 5 = 10
  • Total Average per hit: 18.5 Forge Points
  • x9 Hits: 166.5 Forge Points
  • 47.63% Hitrate: (166.5/100) x 47.63 = 79.3 FPs on average per day
79.3 / 36 squares = 2.2 FPs per Square

  • 50 Goods (24%) = (50 / 100) x 24 = 12
  • 125 Goods (8%) = (125 / 100) x 8 = 10
  • 250 Goods (3%) = (250 / 100) x 3 = 7.5
  • 500 Goods (1%) = (500 / 100) x 1 = 5
  • Total Average per hit: 34.5 Goods
  • x9 Hits: 310.5 Goods
  • 47.63% Hitrate: (310.5/100) x 47.63 = 147.89 Goods on average per day
147.89 / 36 squares = 4.1 Goods per Square

  • 5x Rogue (16%) = (5 / 100) x 16 = 0.8
  • 10x Rogue (4%) = (10 / 100) x 4 = 0.4
  • Total Average per hit: 1.2 per hit
  • x9 Hits: 10.8 Rogues
  • 47.63% Hitrate: (10.8/100) x 47.63 = 5.14 Rogues on average per day
5.14 / 36 squares = 0.14 Rogues per square


What do you have that would produce at a rate of 2.2 FPs and 4.1 Goods per square if you get rid of Himeji? At that lvl it's basically a Cape Canaveral with Goods and Rogues thrown in.
 

Forwandert

Lieutenant-General
Anybody else noticed the returns on HC and SC wins are very poor and sometimes non existent? Mine are level 70 and 66 and I am wondering if they are a waste of time now.

No my HC has been fine and not noticed any difference (both just over 80). SC I hardly use, only reason I haven't deleted is the special goods add up over time and they will come in useful at some point.
 

Cambyses II

Sergeant
Totally agree with Ember on the HC. Supplies become disproportionally important after Virtual Future. Especially as there are no decent supply buildings beyond it.
SC becomes pretty much redundant after SAAB and I will be dumping mine to make room for other more useful stored Event buildings
 
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