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New contemporary map is absurdly hard

DeletedUser96901

about other options:
in the early ages you MUST conquer the map to be able to produce boosted goods of that age
in the later ages: you use those early age good deposits to boost your goods production

so if you are not a fighter you don't need the world map (and province one with the tower) immediately when the age started
take your time: research and when you have the new better troops from the contemporary era it is much much easier to conquer the map than with postmodern era troops

but people always want things immediately:
like the complaining about the halloween event when they stuck after 1 day on quests which takes 2 or 3 days (and still 13 days remaining to do them)

if you are not lifeless person
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if you are a person with life:
take your time for life and play SLOW
you have that option: unlike other games where your life can cost you your city (or even many cities)
 
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DeletedUser4800

Rosletyne said:
You have been told repeatedly that there is another option, negotiating. You have chosen not to listen, instead you have chosen to be rude and insulting. What you are doing is exactly how you don't get any support.
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No you don't. You need to conquer the first province so that you can get to the goods provinces, so in turn I can't produce goods for the contemporary era.
 
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DeletedUser14394

SlickR said:
No you don't. You need to conquer the first province so that you can get to the goods provinces, so in turn I can't produce goods for the contemporary era.
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LoL.. Dont cry, coz you're in CE.. Dont you know that you'll be already having two goods deposit bonus from Early middle age to produce abundant Goods, also you'll be having two goods deposit bonus from PE to provide it as a raw material for producing CE goods.

The new CE continent map provides only the third goods deposit bonus for a EMA goods and third raw material goods deposit bonus for PE goods. IT doesn't matter even if you don't have any boost. You still have the option to build any goods building and produce less goods than what you can get from the boosted goods building. Like it was stated - "Goods Deposit BONUS" - it's only a bonus and no one can help you if you need that as the basic necessity..

Better you've to maintain you language. The way you respect others is the way you'll be respected..
 
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DeletedUser96901

SlickR said:
No you don't. You need to conquer the first province so that you can get to the goods provinces, so in turn I can't produce goods for the contemporary era.
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lol

did you produce goods in modern and postmodern era ?

then you should know that there are NO new goods deposits since modern era on the map
you only get a THIRD of the old deposits where you already have 2

so conquering the contemporary era only gives you the possibility to produce a THIRD one boosted
but you can play very good if you only produce 2 different goods: because you can also build every goods building more than once
 
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DeletedUser2989

It is at this point where the following needs to be said:

- Treat each other with respect and remain polite. You are able to use tactics to prove your in-game opponents in the world forums.
- Personal insults are not allowed anywhere in this forum, including reputation and private messages.
- It is not allowed to impose derogations upon the company of Innogames, nor any of its products or personnel.
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The following is the forum rules in full:
http://forum.en.forgeofempires.com/showthread.php?26259-Forum-Rules

I'd like to thank most of the people in this thread for not breaching these rules and remaining polite even when you were not given the same treatment back. However I also need to remind everyone that you are responsible for the content of your quotes, so please do not quote anything that breaches the rules. If you see something that breaks the rules please report it (using the little yellow triangle with the ! in it found in the bottom left set of buttons on every post) and if you must quote the post please edit it out. Quoting something that is breaching the rules can get you in trouble and creates more work for the moderators.

In saying that I'll post something more specific to the content of this thread now.

SlickR said:
The fact that the developers don't allow other options, which the game was supposed to be. Early in the game time when it was still in beta we had a developer(Anwar) tell us that this game won't become military game, that its supposed to be played casually.

Guess he was too sensible for foe development team and they fired him, since they've been savaging the game and its balance more and more.
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Anwar hasn't been fired.

SlickR said:
No you don't. You need to conquer the first province so that you can get to the goods provinces, so in turn I can't produce goods for the contemporary era.
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You actually can choose to negotiate all sectors and provinces, no fighting needed. If you have geared your town towards goods production and not combat this should be a very viable option for you (others have already pointed out that the CE map only contains additional boost goods and that you'd currently have 2 boosted CE goods from previous maps). A good example of this is that I'm in PME and I've only made it to the PE part of the continent map, I can still build boosted PME goods though because of the IA goods deposits I got much earlier.

As for the OP, I'd say the continent map is suppose to get harder and harder as you progress. Is CE too hard? I'm not sure as I've not experienced it personally, however I know several who have and while they have found it to be a challenge it hasn't been unreasonable. Of course you're entitled to leave feedback (which the devs will read as they read the forums, they just don't post), which would be more appropriate here (you can start a specific thread on this or find a appropriate one already there to post your feedback on):
http://forum.en.forgeofempires.com/forumdisplay.php?20-Feedback-section
 

DeletedUser7719

Yay, just finished the first province on my no-boost account (without negotiating) :o
(Maybe I can actually finish the Halloween Event there now since I have been stuck on the scouting quest :p)
 

Rosletyne

Warrant Officer
Tankovy said:
Quoting something that is breaching the rules can get you in trouble and creates more work for the moderators.
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Thank you for the clarification, I was not aware of this.

Tankovy said:
You actually can choose to negotiate all sectors and provinces, no fighting needed. If you have geared your town towards goods production and not combat this should be a very viable option for you (others have already pointed out that the CE map only contains additional boost goods and that you'd currently have 2 boosted CE goods from previous maps). A good example of this is that I'm in PME and I've only made it to the PE part of the continent map, I can still build boosted PME goods though because of the IA goods deposits I got much earlier.
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I would like to add that in all ages up to Progressive, negotiating the first province containing a goods deposit does not require goods from the current age. Thus you can always negotiate for the first goods deposit using older goods. I'm not sure if this is still the case in Modern and later eras, but as has been stated, you already have two boosts.
 

DeletedUser14881

I did the first province easily with one Champion and 7 Rogues
 

DeletedUser5180

SlickR said:
No you don't. You need to conquer the first province so that you can get to the goods provinces, so in turn I can't produce goods for the contemporary era.
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unlock the first tech on the CE tree which is an expansion, on the second tier the 5 CE goods are in 3 techs, depending on the 2 boosts you ALREADY HAVE, you could be lucky and need to only unlock 1 tech, at the most 2 techs and can then produce 2 CE goods without even having to go near the map.

perhaps understanding how the game works and checking facts before randomly insulting folks via your keyboard would be good advice :)
 
BamBamIsGod

BamBamIsGod

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I am chomping through the Contemporary map, no problem. All I have is Contemporary Champions (at my 72% combat bonus). Not got up to the level of producing other Contemporary units yet. Early in the game I got a couple of Champion camps and when I get to a new age, I use a Renovation kit so I have Champions for that age.

Alcatraz then churns out lots more of them to fight with. I have 30 at the moment.

But some of the early sectors are winnable just with Post-Modern units.
 

DeletedUser

8 strike teams beats roughly the first half, 8 AAs pretty much finish off the last of it. Hardest part was the later battles where the first wave had fewer troops than the second. Still not to bad, overall just don't press auto and there really is no excuse to complain. The entire first province was single waves and mostly without CE units, so that one should be easy to beat with PME (I got strike teams from the winter event the day I etered CE, the map never stood a chance!)
 

DeletedUser7719

I'm stuck on just one sector of the last province on my no-boost account. Can't seem to push through the one with 2 Strike Teams, 2 Heils, and 2 Missles for the first wave, and 1 Champion, 3 Tanks, 2 Strike Teams, and 2 A-Air for the second wave.

EDIT: ...and I have completed the map yet again!
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First time I actually won with Strike Teams too :p
 
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DeletedUser100832

SlickR said:
This is not to even mention the childish business center, because the developers are socialist and how its got 666 in the population number.
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Bravo! Now, what did I do with me tinfoil hat?
 

DeletedUser5180

SlickR said:
Good to know the lifeless persons are here to defend this retarded system.

I said its hard if you are not lifeless person who focuses 100% on battle. I'm not one of those and I know most of the people are not focused 100% on military, which would make it impossible to finish the map.
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to be honest you have started a thread regarding the fighting aspect of the game where the majority of folk who will have some in depth tactical knowledge of pvp'ing manually rather than auto battlers (and who would be willing to take the time to perhaps help you) and instantly you have pretty much alienated yourself by calling them 'lifeless'.

Not really a great way to start a thread is it by slagging off a large majority of those that will read it :confused:

By the time a player reaches CE, if they have fought throughout previous continents they should have enough ability to get through the early provinces with PME troops by which time they should have unlocked some CE military techs.
 
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DeletedUser105544

Hi SlickR, here is a friendly tip:

This game has two elements:
- building a city (economy)
- fighting (military)
Each of this two elements has a purpose to support the other one: strong economy provides a base which can support strong military, and than, strong military provides a protection of your economy from plundering, or gain goods through plundering+saves your goods by conquering world map instead of negotiating and spending a tons of valuable goods that can be used to unlock new technologies.
To play this game, you have to learn both these things.
 

DeletedUser7719

Well, technically you don't need any fighting to get through this game ;)
 

DeletedUser7719

I'm on InA on another account with 1 battle. I think I spend too much time gathering goods and leveling up somewhat useless GBs though :p
 

DeletedUser105544

It is possible, but much harder without army. Unprotected city full of good producing buildings is invitation for plunder. No joy in giving half of your production to plunderers.

(I watched the guy on TV who jumped from the plane, parachute did not open, but he stayed alive with some minor injuries. That does not mean that it is good idea to jump without parachute.)

The main subject of this thread is: "New contemporary map is absurdly hard".

It is not hard if you build appropriate army. That is what I wanted to say ;)
 
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