Not a Bug: Aid&Black Tower

[DeletedUser96901]

I have 146 SoK (and 1 Sacred Sky watch)

and on some days I really would need more friends because the Black Tower is not motivated

so
142 from 140 aids would be more than 140 FP from 140 aids

 

[DeletedUser96901]

You need more friends if you only get aided once a day!

and you need more SoK to know how it is if your Black Tower is not motivated

 

[DeletedUser107476]

and you need more SoK to know how it is if your Black Tower is not motivated

That's what motivation kits are for

 

[DeletedUser96901]

That's what motivation kits are for

we should start a new discussion for that

because they can't be used when the production is already finished

 

[DeletedUser110195]

Actually FP is not comparable to FP unless you work out per square what they produce. Just because a building produces more does not make it more efficient.

Whether the black tower(or anything else compared to similarly producing buildings)is more or less tile efficient than something else, it produces more straight FP than an SoK, so we want it motivated before anything else. A blacksmith is more tile efficient than a fruit farm, but the fruit farm produces more than a blacksmith in a single production. Multiple blacksmiths may outproduce fruit farms, but aid on an existing fruit farm is worth more than a blacksmith.

 

[DeletedUser107476]

Whether the black tower(or anything else compared to similarly producing buildings)is more or less tile efficient than something else, it produces more straight FP than an SoK, so we want it motivated before anything else. A blacksmith is more tile efficient than a fruit farm, but the fruit farm produces more than a blacksmith in a single production. Multiple blacksmiths may outproduce fruit farms, but aid on an existing fruit farm is worth more than a blacksmith.

I don't build Fruit Farms as not efficient enough. If you choose to put a less efficient building in your city that is your choice, not the developers.

 

[DeletedUser96901]

if my OF city wouldn't be full with SoK, GB and other event buildings I would build 240 blacksmith

3 quests per 24 tiles

because: what is the most efficient building when you are in OF based on quests


but back to the topic
3 FP is still more than 1 FP

 

[DeletedUser110195]

Highest output should be the priority, or why add new event buildings at all? They waste time creating something new for an event and then put it lower in priority than a common building seen in multiple events? Why? That is beyond ridiculous.

 

[DeletedUser107476]

if my OF city wouldn't be full with SoK, GB and other event buildings I would build 240 blacksmith

3 quests per 24 tiles

because: what is the most efficient building when you are in OF based on quests


but back to the topic
3 FP is still more than 1 FP

I would rather have 5 SoK's in than a Black Tower. 5 fp for same space is more than 3.

 

[DeletedUser110195]

I would rather have 5 SoK's in than a Black Tower. 5 fp for same space is more than 3.

For 1 aid, you get 3 FP, that is more aid efficient.

 

[DeletedUser96901]

I would rather have 5 SoK's in than a Black Tower. 5 fp for same space is more than 3.

but would you rather have 151 SoK instead of 146 SoK and a Black Tower ?

btw you can't put 5 SoK on the space of one black tower (in a good city design) because you need roads

so in reality it would be 150 SoK compared to 146 SoK + BT

 

[DeletedUser107476]

For 1 aid, you get 3 FP, that is more aid efficient.

That depends on if you have reliable neighbours, friends and guild. As you should get all builds aided.

 

[DeletedUser107476]

but would you rather have 151 SoK instead of 146 SoK and a Black Tower ?

btw you can't put 5 SoK on the space of one black tower (in a good city design) because you need roads

Yes you can, as straight road going across city two squares away from other building will allow you to use same space. No waste of space so same space.

 

[DeletedUser96901]

Yes you can, as straight road going across city two squares away from other building will allow you to use same space. No waste of space so same space.

then your city layout is terrible because the BT only needs one piece of roads



and then you can't put 5 SoK there and each have a road

 

[DeletedUser107476]

then your city layout is terrible because the BT only needs one piece of roads



and then you can't put 5 SoK there and each have a road

You are probably right. My city layout is terrible. But then could have 4 SoK's in less space as 4 pieces of road plus 16 for SoK's is still less space than 20 squares plus 1 piece of road and still more fp as 4 fp is still more than 3.

 

[DeletedUser16876]

I only found this out cus I have over 100 soks and had to dump nearly half my friends to invite someone new
Efficiency is Irrelevant! Up to the player how they play and as I said before unless you have a lot of Soks this issue likely wont arise.

But its very simple. You have 100 soks, a Black tower and a Lords Manor and you get 50 aids ... Should you get / expect / want.....
(a) 50fps
or
(b) 53fps

By prioritizing SoKs to receive aid first FOE are already confirming that FPs take priority other coins/suppies so I suggest the devs could be asked to consider if these and future new special buildings that produce multiple FPs should be given a higher priority for aid. Else why go to the trouble of designing a buildings like the black tower if people end up not placing them or deleting them

 

[DeletedUser4727]

Not a bug, and I'll close the thread too as its gone a little off topic. Thanks, guys.

Perhaps something for the ideas section?