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What's the use of the ideas section?

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Agent327

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really ?

more crap wasting the space in the shop ?

Yes, but you do not get the point.

On thuis forum there are several steops to get something forwarded. On the beta, you just have to mention a stupid idea and i gets forwarded immediately. We are treated as fools here!
 

DeletedUser104881

There is a difference between ideas that have just been launched where we are actively looking for feedback across all servers for new features and events. Although the Antiques Dealer is now on the live servers we are still collecting feedback on this feature across all servers. New ideas follow a slightly different format and we like to gather feedback for new ideas to get an idea of the Community Support.

There is a difference between the servers and yes you may have noticed some familiar faces over there as we are helping out. Please bear in mind that feedback is just that, and by forwarding on is no guarantee that it will be implemented.
 

Agent327

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Forwarding is never a guarantee it will be implemented.

It totally sucks that we need to follow rules here to get something to the developers and on the beta suggestions will be forwarded without any player support. Have a hair brained idea and it will just get fowarded. So it never makes the game. We all should have the same opportunities. On beta, stupid ideas reach the devs. Here you need player support. Is that to be fair or in player interest?
 

Deleted member 109369

Two things. As Dudettas noticed, we are just helping out so we cant change the structure of how things are done on Beta. Generally speaking all the live servers follow the same structure we do. There is also a separate feedback process for beta. Also, Of the couple of things we have forwarded there, we have noted that those things have been asked for on live as well. Would it be nice if Beta has the same structure, sure but they don't at the moment. But that doesn't mean beta players thoughts or ideas carry any more weight than a player on live.
 

Agent327

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Two things. As Dudettas noticed, we are just helping out so we cant change the structure of how things are done on Beta. Generally speaking all the live servers follow the same structure we do. There is also a separate feedback process for beta. Also, Of the couple of things we have forwarded there, we have noted that those things have been asked for on live as well. Would it be nice if Beta has the same structure, sure but they don't at the moment. But that doesn't mean beta players thoughts or ideas carry any more weight than a player on live.

True, but if you have an idea on beta it imediately gets forwarded so the devs can decide. If you have an idea here, community needs to agree with it, vote on it and it will takes weeks before it will even get to the devs? This isn't about the weight a players idea carries, but about waht it takes to get to the devs at all. What is the use of this forum part, bringing up ideas, discussing them at length and trying to improve them while every hair brained idea on the beta gets forwarded right away? That is a kick in the balls of eveybody trying to help improve the game with an idea proposed here. You might as well go to the beta. At least it gets to the devs from there right away. This is a total disrespect for the players here that can not even make a suggestuon when it is not in the right format!!!
 

Deleted member 109369

Ok so on beta one of the difference is, that during the running of an event or new feature, the feedback and ideas are taken directly from the feedback thread so that they can be forwarded immediately in case they need/want to make any balancing changes. There is a specific process that we are asked to follow for feedback and forwarding during those times. That's not likely going to change because on beta, those require a faster response and are time sensitive before hitting live. So right now anything for the fall event is being forwarded faster yes, than it would be on live. The other suggestion on the avatars in the AD, was forwarded as it was in two separate places and we've also seen that feedback on live.

On the live servers, ideas tend to be things that players would like to see overall on things that have been in place for a while , and we forward those ideas on a monthly basis together with the other servers. Most players who play on beta also play live servers and they forward other suggestions in general that don't pertain to a currently running event or new feature on beta, to their forums the same as is done here
 

Agent327

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Ideas I have seen being forwarded have nothing to do with balancing the game. Avatars do not balance the game. If there is a specific process to follow for feedback and forwarding it should apply to the forums on the live servers as well. Beta has nothing to do with testing anymore. It has become a players server like all the others. You can now even buy diamonds on the beta. Is that to test the process of selling diamonds?

Saying things on beta need a faster response and are time sensitive because it is bound to hit live is a total joke. It will hit live anyhow with all the bugs in it. Feedback does not change anything in regards to that. Latest example, the Virgo Project.

Idea forwarded and used as an example has nothing to do with the Fall Event by the way. It is about the Antiques Dealer and that is already on the live servers.
 

Deleted member 109369

And I made the distinction on the Avatars for AD as well. Ideas and feedback for new events and features on Beta will be forwarded differently than they are on live. Whilst I get you don't like that, it is unlikely going to change.
 
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