DeletedUser99588
He might be using a desktop PC. Many still do including myself.
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He might be using a desktop PC. Many still do including myself.
DeletedUser99588
I can only use HTML with Chrome. It's like having a dial up connection with firefox.
Agent327
Overlord
It doesn't matterr what he uses. He is only trying to be a smartass.
Emberguard
Legend
agreed people need solutions. When people post the problems though they need to remove themselves from the problem so there's not a bunch of fluff added. Otherwise that fluff is in danger of becoming the focus of the discussion as there's a lot more need to read between lines to get to the point being made if it's all "I, I, I" instead of the actual problem.
Refunded FPs? Can't imagine that happening. There's no way to differentiate between being "beaten" to it and wanting to put in an amount at a loss as it can't read your intentions. You'd essentially be programming the game not to take players at their word. Which if it's automatic could cause major problems. If it's manual withdrawal that's abuseable in the way of converting FP bar into FP packs and rather likely the GB would have already reached the next lvl if you both snipe each other at half the total.
Either it'd cause problems or it'd remove all risk which is normally tied into a players decision making
That's my problem with Chrome on Wins 10. But Wins Edge works like a dream
DeletedUser96901
bad words / misunderstanding:
he wanted to say
if I want to donate 1k FP then those can fit in: will be done. if somebody was faster and only 999 FP (or less) left to donate then nothing will be donated
not like now: parts are donated. only the exact amount a player typed in or nothing
nothing will be removed/withdrawed from the GB because it wasn't in it. so it can't be abused
he wanted to say
if I want to donate 1k FP then those can fit in: will be done. if somebody was faster and only 999 FP (or less) left to donate then nothing will be donated
not like now: parts are donated. only the exact amount a player typed in or nothing
nothing will be removed/withdrawed from the GB because it wasn't in it. so it can't be abused
DeletedUser99588
Don't get too attached to Edge it's a dead duck.
Emberguard
Legend
@thanatos100 too late. I'm loving my Edge it's the only browser that doesn't have problems on this device.
DeletedUser99588
Quite often players only put in the exact amount that secures a position. So two players can put in 180fp and only one gets the spot and the other gets the position below with the proposed change. If your putting them in manually you would notice someone else loading up at the same time and have the opportunity to stop. You just swap one problem for another. To be honest it doesn't bother me either way. The game is meant to be competitive which includes winning spots on GB's but the proposed change would please some (big spenders) just for the ease of filling GB's but a new batch of upset players would also follow.
Shame Microsoft are talking about redesigning it based on Chromium.
Agent327
Overlord
You are a bit to much focused on me. You are quoting Emberguard, not me.
DeletedUser99588
Lol, I have my stalker hat on. No idea why your being quoted I just hit reply but glad to give you some attention. Don't want you to feel left out.
Emberguard
Legend
that's a shame. It's current design is rather unique in its simplicity and has a handy feature I haven't found on other browsers without being crazy elaborate
Yeah which under what the OP proposes if you're both after 1st would be the entire lvl done without any way of preventing massive lost prior to it lvl'ing up given you'd be typing the full amount in one go.
Now suppose instead of two players vying for 1st there's three players. Does the third get put into the next lvl or will it not go through at all without exiting and re-entering into the GB like how currently it won't allow more then the current lvl can have put in
DeletedUser96901
then the new secure donation will be 181 FP
Emberguard
Legend
Assuming it wasn't a 360 FP lvlthen the new secure donation will be 181 FP
DeletedUser96901
it doesn't matter what a lvl it was
if 360 are missing you can go secure and give 181 or you can take the risk and give 180 if the proposed all or nothing donation of an exact amount would be implemented
and if you AND the other decide to go the risky way then: it was your decision. nobody else to blame
if the other would give 181 your 180 for 2nd wouldn't fit in and HE saved your ass
btw we had that exact problem a few days ago in the guild
2 app players donated at the same time for a 2nd place
and there was no way for them to stop. GB leveled up and both with the same amount of FP 2nd and 3rd
and with 500 FP in the GB their could already be a big loss if he then must stop
if 360 are missing you can go secure and give 181 or you can take the risk and give 180 if the proposed all or nothing donation of an exact amount would be implemented
and if you AND the other decide to go the risky way then: it was your decision. nobody else to blame
if the other would give 181 your 180 for 2nd wouldn't fit in and HE saved your ass
btw we had that exact problem a few days ago in the guild
2 app players donated at the same time for a 2nd place
and there was no way for them to stop. GB leveled up and both with the same amount of FP 2nd and 3rd
app players don't have that opportunity < 500 FP
and with 500 FP in the GB their could already be a big loss if he then must stop
Zeratul 2.0
Lieutenant Colonel
FOE is a "strategy game" not a "real-time strategy" game.
A real-time strategy game, for example Starcraft, which by the way is where Zeratul is from, and by the way I am not Zeratul, I am just lucky to inherit his name... OK now a real-time strategy game requires not only proper planning but also speed, to "make decisions in split-second" and take action upon that decision, that's why the Grandmasters have an APM (actions per minute) of about 400 or 500, which means 7 or 8 keystrokes/clicks per second.
FOE is not like that, or is it? That's why for example, in FP Swap threads, you should first attach your GB, and then input the required amount into the previous GB; and in Arc Level80 Owners 190% Donation Thread, you first claim the spot you want to take, and then input the FPs.
@All
A real-time strategy game, for example Starcraft, which by the way is where Zeratul is from, and by the way I am not Zeratul, I am just lucky to inherit his name... OK now a real-time strategy game requires not only proper planning but also speed, to "make decisions in split-second" and take action upon that decision, that's why the Grandmasters have an APM (actions per minute) of about 400 or 500, which means 7 or 8 keystrokes/clicks per second.
FOE is not like that, or is it? That's why for example, in FP Swap threads, you should first attach your GB, and then input the required amount into the previous GB; and in Arc Level80 Owners 190% Donation Thread, you first claim the spot you want to take, and then input the FPs.
@All
DeletedUser96901
you missed a step
claim your spot, LOOK BACK IN THE MESSAGE IF SOMEBODY ELSE DID IT FASTER, donate
the one guy didn't make that and the crash happend
Zeratul 2.0
Lieutenant Colonel
I know. But the "case in point" is already clear, with also the "refresh the message box" and what not.
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OK you are right. "Claim" alone won't do, "look back" is also an essential step.
--- Edit again ---
To prevent clash of FP contribution, "claim" + "look back" are both required.
But as an example to support my argument that FOE is not about speed, "claim" alone is sufficient.
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Agent327
Overlord
Yes they do. They can stop anytime.
DeletedUser96901
you don't get the point
an app player going for a big donation will make his first (forced) stop at 500
sure he could stop at 50 and take a look what else happens in the GB. but are app player doing that ?