Hot (Trades) Person to Person Trading / Direct Trading

Discussion in 'Popular' started by DriftingSteps, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. Strategy Master 101

    Strategy Master 101 Chief Warrant Officer

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    I was originally for it, but on further thought I see goods sniping as a part of the game.. you're trying to pay another player or give them a polite trade? Best be fast then, it's a free market.

    I would like to point out that with trade linking in messages you already have a decent amount of protection against snipers.
     
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  2. Rhoredryn

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  3. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    -1 it is a FREE market
     
  4. DriftingSteps

    DriftingSteps Corporal

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    Assuming that there are about 500 to 600+ active trades at any given moment (minus goods merchants), is good sniping really a thing?
    The whole idea behind having a trade up is to have it taken, right? So how does a "goods sniper" know what trades are Direct Trades? And considering the amount of active trades, we can safely assume that at least 95% of 600+ trades are open for all. So is it really "goods sniping" if you're taking goods from someone who wants to have their goods taken?
    Your statement also assumes that Goods Snipers know which trades are meant to be a direct trade offers.
    I personally find "goods sniping" as an actual strategy to be a stretch.

    Although I don't agree on how it protects against goods snipers, I do agree that the new attachment feature is a lot more helpful. Direct Trade is meant for mutual gain, and attachment option only elevates DT further.


    Thanks for the feedback.
     
  5. Emberguard

    Emberguard FoE Team Forum Moderator

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    What's the purpose of the market? For players to help each other right? So direct trades would stream line that purpose

    It's still a free market if you allow direct trading, it's just freeing up the market from unfair trades. Otherwise by the logic you're using we should scrap guild only trades, because you know; "Free market"

    Most players that are wanting direct trades are doing things like 1 bronze age good for 2 Oceanic goods. Because those deals are for FPs

    I don't see a direct player trade as being detrimental to the market at all. It should allow us to find trades we actually want easier then it currently is
     
  6. tomlan

    tomlan Sergeant

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    People can already make whatever trades they like between neighbours/friends/guildies, having this option would just make trawling through pages and pages of trades to find the right one a bit easier as I assume these 'Direct Trades' would be in their own tab or at least be highlighted so you could tell which ones they are.
     
  7. elfish lad

    elfish lad Master Corporal

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    Everything about this is cool, I even like it, but I don't think it is necessary. Here is what I mean:

    -- Guildie is going to help me with the goods for a GB (sweet);

    -- Guildie and I work out our agreement by PM (easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy);

    -- I load up in our goods/PM thread the offer (20 boxes of toothpicks for 20,000 space-age-pollimers);

    -- The offer sits there, seen by the players currently in my market (guild/hood/friends) until Guildie fills order.

    -- The End.

    If another random player wants to spend 20,000 space-age-pollimers for my measly 20 boxes of toothpicks? That would be quite odd, a bit weird and totally unlikely, but in the end it would save my Guildie buddy the goods and I would get what I wanted.

    The moral of the story: have the player getting the deal submit the trade and no one, ever, will snipe it.

    Still. Cool idea/presentation

    E.

    [Edit: And if you are in a Guild that is super touchy about "fair trades" I've seen Guildies post in our trade thread -- "temporary unfair trade posted in the market" -- to alert Guild Mob Bosses about the GB goods help.]
     
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  8. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    You are only allowed a 1:2 trade ratio :P
     
  9. DriftingSteps

    DriftingSteps Corporal

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    @elfish lad I see your point of view, and it does make sense.
    But i believe we should consider a few things. For example, we may have trade deals with the people in our Friends list (as I often do), in which case, Direct Trading would be great.
    Another situation it'd be helpful in would be if the guild has a lot of members, wherein a third guild member might just take the trade for the sake of being helpful. Even if two parties have an open conversation regarding the trade in the Guild Thread, the likelihood of another guildie taking the trade without reading the conversation is quite high, and that would ruin the trade deal despite it being talked about. That's a good deal for one side, not so good for the other.
    One more thing we should consider is timezone. I'm in a guild where people are from all across the globe, some in lower era, some up to date. Often times I make deals with lower era members where we trade old goods for new ones (say Algae for Bionic Data) and just because of timezone, the trade gets taken by another guild member.
    I think these are valid reasons for this feature.


    great story though, 5/7. like skyrim with toothpicks
     
  10. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    No there isn't. Timezones, Guilds, it all doesn't matter. If you want to trade something personal you make an appointment with that person and trade. It is as simple as that.
     
  11. DarthKiller

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  12. jmazz777

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    Fantastic Idea ... please implement
     
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  13. Emberguard

    Emberguard FoE Team Forum Moderator

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    You might want to change that to green @jmazz777 red is usually used for disagreeing
     
  14. Prolifix

    Prolifix Private

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    Is this no longer possible....I d9nt have a player check box when I open my trades
     
  15. Migraine of Ord

    Migraine of Ord Master Corporal

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    ntnete0 Corporal

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  17. jmazz777

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    +1 ... great idea
     
  18. YJ the Black Ice God

    YJ the Black Ice God Private

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    -1. Luck is also part of the game and there is no such thing as sniping. When you say sniping, it was intentional attack. I don’t even know who I am trading with in the free market not until the transaction is done and got posted in my townhall. It was luck that brought me to a very good deal that I can’t resist when I happen to be inside the marketplace.
     
  19. King Jared The III

    King Jared The III Major

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  20. -HECKER-

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    WOW mate, this is great!
     

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