New Idea: Space Capital- and Lower Case Sensitivity

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Chalinna, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Chalinna

    Chalinna Brigadier-General

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    On the NL forum a problem is reported with a guild name which is exactly the same as an other besides an extra space.
    They have the same guild flag too so this can cause confusion/ frustration.
    Apparently it is easy to copy guild names as such in a barely visible distinctive way.
    Support can clearly not help here: the sky would be the limit in problem solving I suppose especially because it can be done so easily.

    My proposal: Make the interface less sensitive for extra breaks and lower- and upper case.
    Especially extra breaks two instead of one should be ignored I think.

    Edit:
    Thanks to @bradype there are more dealbreakers found via beta testing within a variety of available keyboard signs in the different languages.
    The results are not so good in order to avoid confusions in Guild and player names.

    In NL they found it funny to make a (double) account by name of our community manager, starting with a lower case instead of an upper this in order to overly proof their point *SiGhS*

    Clarification: Posted it here as the interfaces are the same and could easily occur here as well.
    Since this is an International forum I feel it is sound to address it here as it’ll potentially effect everyone but more importantly this platform is more visited.
    The NL forum is close to death.
    This proposal is not per se for this isolated matter on NL but more so to draw attention to the interface problem/ limitations or culprits.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2019
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  2. Quintense

    Quintense Sergeant

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    +1 this proposal makes completely sense
     
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  3. twomsuk

    twomsuk FoE Team Senior Forum Moderator Senior Ingame Moderator

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    This is not the situation here submit it to the NL forum
     
  4. Quintense

    Quintense Sergeant

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    It could be I assume things work the same and since this forum is international it makes sense she did that.
     
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  5. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    Strange reply. It's how it works in the game and that makes it international. Why would the international forum not be the place to try to change it?

    I tried and it works the same here. Does that make this the correct forum now?
     
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  6. Chalinna

    Chalinna Brigadier-General

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    Thanks for showing this problem is server wide <3
     
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  7. twomsuk

    twomsuk FoE Team Senior Forum Moderator Senior Ingame Moderator

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    If I have mistaken your proposal then I apologise I thought it was the postings on the NL forum that concerned you which should be raised there.
     
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  8. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    It isn't about forum postings. It is about in game names. You can mimick a Guild's name and mimick a Guild.

    A guild on K for instance is "Phase 2"

    I can mimick it by starting a guild called "Phase 2'
     
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  9. bradype

    bradype Tsar

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    +1 There are worse
    I and l (I and L) are considered different
    А, A and Α (from cyrillic, latin and greek alphabets) are considered different (just tested on β)
     
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  10. Galladhorn

    Galladhorn Lieutenant-General

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    +1
     
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  11. Emberguard

    Emberguard FoE Team Forum Moderator

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    Maybe the solution would be in having a minimum of 3 characters different (in addition to overlapping characters)?

    +1
     
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  12. King Jared The III

    King Jared The III Lieutenant-General

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    +1
    Except that would cause more problems:
    Guilds that have similar names(but clearly distinguishable ones) will suffer from this[Example: If a guild is named “Canadians”, and another one is named “The Canadians”, then would both guilds be forced to change their names?]
    Although I agree to the OP’s change, please keep current guilds the way they are.:)
     
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  13. Emberguard

    Emberguard FoE Team Forum Moderator

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    @King Jared The III what I had in mind was to only check at the time of creating the new guild / changing name, not checking pre-existing guilds or the old names

    But you're right, that part skipped my post and needed clarification
     
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  14. Bewildered Zeratul

    Bewildered Zeratul Master Corporal

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    It cannot be done. The only solution would be "limit the characters allowed in a user/guild/account name to only 26 English letters and the numbers [0-9]" and also, either "I" (upper case i) or "l" (lower case L) must be wiped off from the dictionary - only one is allowed to exist.

    So it cannot be done
     
  15. TheKingOfKool

    TheKingOfKool Major

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    Thx for the gumball popeye - great idea - guild ghosting to a whole new level - lol
     
  16. Quintense

    Quintense Sergeant

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    You are making things worse and are raising a point here in how this should be abused even more.
    The OP just brings a mishap to attention.
     
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  17. thanatos100

    thanatos100 Monarch

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    -1, No offense to the OP as I appreciate it might be a little annoying but I'm fed up with micro managing ideas.
     
  18. twomsuk

    twomsuk FoE Team Senior Forum Moderator Senior Ingame Moderator

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    -1 I believe this would require extensive checks and filters being put into place and we all know how crazy the chat filters are. Naming a guild could end up as a marathon exercise not a two minute job. I regret to say those with mischief in mind would find a work around.
     
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  19. Andrew420

    Andrew420 Warrant Officer

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    There's your answer
    Most already do know this after 6 years yet now you want to turn it into an issue
    It might be an issue on NL server but this is the 1st complaint on EN server( and its from a NL forum member )
    Either no one on EN server sees this as a problem or they don't care
     
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  20. Amy Steele

    Amy Steele FoE Team Forum Administrator

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    Hey folks! Certain posts have been edited or deleted as they overstepped the mark with personal remarks. I realise that this is something of a contentious issue, but please when posting keep in mind our rules especially the one that requires you to:

    As regards this being an issue here on EN, I can certainly remember that some time ago we had several instances of 'copycat' guilds, mostly associated with GvG. I'm not sure though whether it is currently an issue.

    I also feel that the proposed solution may not be particularly easy to implement, though that itself does not make it a bad idea.
     
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