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DeletedUser96901

you know that if you want to be near the top you must spend diamonds from the beginning and every day

because players keep score even if a new round starts
and you can never catch someone else who spend diamonds from the beginning if you didn't do the same
 

Deleted member 119403

I like the concept that they are doing something new for those who enjoy the fighting portion of the game, especially for longer playing folks like myself who joined the game when PvPing started even as you were going through your second story quest in the game or were in hoods with 2-3 eras all in the same hoods and had to learn the art of fighting and protecting your city just to get by in the game.

I had been looking forward to this feature since the first hints came out on the beta server but I have a lot of concerns just based on what little the video showed and the way it has been described thus far.

1) The information for the regular server is not as detailed as the information that was given out on the beta server. This description of the concept is less informative! How can players make any sort of detailed opinion on something when not given all of the current facts as they currently stand or are being tested?

https://forum.beta.forgeofempires.com/index.php?threads/pvp-arena.13381/#post-105860

1.5) The use of non-manual fighting. The game already has enough areas where players are forced to use the auto button because of live interactions with other players/guilds: GvG and GbG. Part of what I really enjoy about GE is it is a chance to not only assist the guild in bring in guild points but because I get to “manually” move my own units. There is strategy involved and it is fun to pair up lower era units against the higher age ones on it to see if you can still win. The AI is atrocious! Lets take fast units for example even using auto for some eras. If you hit auto right away they go straight across the field and are quickly killed off a majority of the time, vs even using auto if you go into the battle, hold them back on the first turn and then hit auto you’re looking at 0 losses even with those first two units most of the time. I would HATE this feature if it were to be released with auto fighting only as it isn’t a case of strategy and just comes down to the highest attack power vs defensive power and how the AI decides to move the units and lets be honest the AI makes some...poor choices.

2) It shows different eras from the player. Is this going to be another case where players can use whatever units they want or will the player have to use the same era units as what they are up against? Again I think it would be a bad idea and a fantastic way of people gaming the system if they can just use their eras units vs one that is 2+ lower than their current era. NO player no matter how good the city defense would be able to win against that. If players are penalized for players attacking them and winning there would be no point in players taking part because they’d always lose. Sticking to only players in the same era would be the only way I could see around this. This way if they want to put in a poor defending army then they already know the consequences of doing so.

The following is more of a suggestion…

* Please do NOT have medals as a reward! Medals are so easy to come by now. Part of the reason I know some who do enjoy fighting stopped playing the towers is because you don’t need the medals. It would be nice to see better rewards for taking part in a part of the game where players are spending coins and supplies or FPs to make troops (or to level their Traz so that they don’t have to).

* It would be more interesting if it were a cross server competition instead of just the world players are on. Otherwise it’ll be very much like GvG and GBG where it’s pretty much the same group of players/guilds going after each other all of the time, again making it dull and boring quickly.

* Though it needs a cap on fighting (otherwise this feature would be too easy for those who can spend most of the day on the game) it would be nice to see the number of fights at 10 to give players a bit more incentive to play because you can take part more, or perhaps run it like the FP bar where it gets capped out at 10 but is refilled every 1 hour vs 4 and do away with premium attempts as this way it’s a more accurate reflection of those who actually have worked on their city defense and attack power.

* I hope the feature isn’t rushed and that they take the beta players comments to heart and don’t release it with any known bugs out. It’s really annoying watching features get changed once they are released live.



I always enjoyed the “strategy” part of fighting. A player with a lower attack power when using the terrain can still win against a more powerful foe. It would be nice to see a part of the game where players could go back to using those sort of strategies and enjoy the fighting part of the game vs just power levelling GBs and hitting auto.
 
if stays on only auto combat , strategy went out the door
Who needs battle strategy now? With all the boost bldgs. flowing like water! A note should be made however that the AI is being adjusted with each new battle boost stuff that comes out.

I am still taking pretty much the same battle damage as before - even though I have tripled my attack boost - both A & D - Extremely sinister & shady stuff going on behind the scenes now
 

shad23

Emperor
Who needs battle strategy now? With all the boost bldgs. flowing like water!
eaven if my boost and count troop is now high enough to just clic auto fight till my troops are all hurt i still enjoy strategy of a good manual fight
6 fights are a pure joke compared to what players can do eaven GE lvl 1 has more fights to do
there should 'nt be a limit to amount of fights you can do in the feature this is turning FoE in to a pay to win game
this is completely rediculous
this is suposed to be a free to play game
big Boo to INNO for this feature so far from what i hear about it pls change it befor it hits live
INNO realy needs to work a lot on this befor releasing it on live
if it hits live as presently advertised i can predict vast majority will opt out

[QUOTE=" from beta ,
CrashBoom said:


6 fights a day
wouldn't it be fun when both sides fight manually
[/QUOTE]
i'd accept 6 fights a day for the feature if it would be you who chooses manual or auto but it's auto only
you'd have some strategy in feature but not like this
auto only and only 6 to 16 fights with diamond bought chances is a joke and they are literally laughing at us siting behind their desks and having a great big
$$$ LoL $$$ at our expense
 
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Thrawnf

Corporal
It'd very strange this PvP areana.

I feel it's like the tournament in the Soccer event, a cash machine for Inno.

On the paper, it could have been a great idea.
But for what I read it sound useless...

Let see on 13th what it will be, but I hope developer didn't get pay too much for this, as from here so far, it sound a waste of money.

It could have been better to stop the recurring farming point or the unbalanced GbG
 

Galladhorn

Monarch
I honestly don´t get it so far. PvP Areana sounds like a place were one could challenge opponents in some way, perhaps best out of 3 x 2 wave battles kind of setup. 2 wave battles to eliminate Rogue play or eliminating it in some other way – to get a more strategic fight going. Winning medals does not make much sense either, all old time players will have little to no need for winning many more medals and new players have plenty of games modes to attend to. Even as a Diamond purchase feature it is not obvious what the gain of the investment would be?.
 

Goremise

Major-General
* It would be more interesting if it were a cross server competition instead of just the world players are on. Otherwise it’ll be very much like GvG and GBG where it’s pretty much the same group of players/guilds going after each other all of the time, again making it dull and boring quickly.
I honestly think that the game not having cross server support is something massively holding this game back from being so much more popular. It would be great to GBG cross server so its not the same boring guilds every single time, and of course, make alliances impossible so its always a mass free for all with strong guilds from multiple servers battling it out.

This PVP tower seems like an interesting idea, and a great new way to get other rewards besides medals from the pvp towers on the map currently. Just such a weird implementation. (Thanks for the link btw)

Only auto battling, AND you are limited in your hits unless you spend diamonds.... lol. It would have been quit cool if we could manual battle on the defending side, have real time PVP action. defenders don't lose troops that die, attackers do.