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In the Rival mini-challenge, what should one do with the free "4 Attempts" reward here, when older quests have already led you to finish GE? :/

This reward of "4 Attempts" is valueless after the Rival mini-challenge quests have already had you finish all of the Guild Expedition quests for the week. SO what do you propose I do with them?Screenshot 2025-08-26 at 4.48.08 PM.png
 

Ariana Erosaire

Lieutenant Colonel
The same you do with rewards from ToR. Or rewards in blueprints. Or...
Yes we get relatively useless rewards all the time, but presumably blueprints or Relic drops were useful to someone, somewhere, at some time.

This Rival quest design was a clear mistake by developers: it wasn't possible for 4 attempts to be useful to ANYBODY because the quests that came before this required you to finish GE for the week.

I don't even remember seeing this bad reward pointed out in beta, which should have caught it, but they have the Rivals feedback thread going for over 50 pages and split between the old forums and Discord so yeah - this is more of the low quality design, communication and testing we have come to expect this year.
 
Yes we get relatively useless rewards all the time, but presumably blueprints or Relic drops were useful to someone, somewhere, at some time.

This Rival quest design was a clear mistake by developers: it wasn't possible for 4 attempts to be useful to ANYBODY because the quests that came before this required you to finish GE for the week.

I don't even remember seeing this bad reward pointed out in beta, which should have caught it, but they have the Rivals feedback thread going for over 50 pages and split between the old forums and Discord so yeah - this is more of the low quality design, communication and testing we have come to expect this year.
It's not only a Rival issue. Sometimes you get extra attempts as reward from one of the last chests on GE5. :lol:
 
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Ariana Erosaire

Lieutenant Colonel
It's not only a Rival issue. Sometimes you get extra attempts as reward from one of the last chests on GE5. :lol:
yeah that one was pointed out during the GE trials testing on beta, the last 3 chests on the last level ideally should not give "4 attempts" as a prize. But it stayed as is, and the only defense I saw for it was some people might need those 4 attempts to finish if they lose battles or negotiations while trying to finish.

Probably just lazy programming though, they want to make all the GE chests random every week and not have to code a different group pool for the last 3 chests.

It's still lame. But not as inexcusable as that Rivals one we just had, literally nobody could use those extra attempts.
 
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