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Unformatted: I have an idea for a new cultural settlement

Helen1701

Private
How about make a new cultural settlement available only when players reach space age mars (which for me is still a small way off as I am still in arctic future), how about an alien cultural settlement? It would make sense if we're in an era where we're beginning to explore space that we might encounter other intelligent life forms, maybe make the building you win some kind of alien embassy. I think the idea could be cool if the building gave good rewards.
 

Helen1701

Private
Same as any other settlement... make it work same way as any of the other available settlements. It makes sense that if we're exploring space we might encounter aliens, Like, have four alien goods (bioengineered alien crops, spaceship parts, nanocomputers and breathing aparatus, the latter mostly because there is no reason to assume they could breathe easily in our atmosphere). The task would be to help the aliens become self sufficient in setting up a permanent diplomatic base on Earth. If you think about it, every country on Earth has an embassy in other countries... why would aliens not put an embassy here after first contact? It is just a suggestion, I can understand if inno decide it's unnecessary or wouldn't add much to the game, but I thought it might be interesting.
 

Knight of ICE

What are Cultural Settlements?
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One of the core ideas behind the Cultural Settlements is to explore new cultures of humanity’s past during the different ages of Forge of Empires. As the main game has already moved beyond those times, we came up with this new way to explore and experience those rich cultures of our history.
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Don't think aliens qualify as humanity's past.
 

Helen1701

Private
If we're going to talk about ancient history, there could be a strong argument that aliens may have visited humanity in the past. Look at the size of the rock blocks used to construct the pyramids of gisa, some of them are tens of tonnes heavy at the base. If we cannot move such boulders right now, with our modern technology, it stands to reason that ancient people couldn't have done so either. Therefore someone else must have moved them. What was an impossible feat for us, might have been a simple matter for a species so advanced that they have antigravity technology. There are also documented ancient cave paintings, some of which appear to depict aliens and saucer shaped disks in the sky. Nope, they've been here all along, and they are a part of our history, believe it or not. Some cultures worshipped them as Gods, any sufficiently advanced species would seem like a god performing magic. Imagine how a cavemen might react to a smartphone or a TV, to us these things are everyday tools, to that person it would seem to be magic.
 

Knight of ICE

Helen1701 said:
If we're going to talk about ancient history, there could be a strong argument that aliens may have visited humanity in the past. Look at the size of the rock blocks used to construct the pyramids of gisa, some of them are tens of tonnes heavy at the base. If we cannot move such boulders right now, with our modern technology, it stands to reason that ancient people couldn't have done so either. Therefore someone else must have moved them. What was an impossible feat for us, might have been a simple matter for a species so advanced that they have antigravity technology. There are also documented ancient cave paintings, some of which appear to depict aliens and saucer shaped disks in the sky. Nope, they've been here all along, and they are a part of our history, believe it or not. Some cultures worshipped them as Gods, any sufficiently advanced species would seem like a god performing magic. Imagine how a cavemen might react to a smartphone or a TV, to us these things are everyday tools, to that person it would seem to be magic.
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Does not make them a culture :)

Vikings - confirmed
Feudal Japan - confirmed
Aztecs - confirmed
Mughal Empire - confirmed
Aliens - Uhhhhhh, probably confirmed by those that wear alu hats :P
 

Helen1701

Private
To paraphrase sherlock holmes, when you eliminate the impossible, whatever you're left with, however improbable, must be the truth. Even when you account for beasts of burden, movingmulti-tonne boulders of rock was far beyond the capabilities of ancient people given what they had available to them at the time (and, like I said, it is beyond even our modern capabilities). If it was impossible for humans, or humans with animal or machine assistance, then it must have been aliens because this is the only possible explanation. The technologies available at the time were pretty basic, they had the wheel, which would be useful for stuff like carriages, pulleys...etc, Certainly such things would have been useful for transporting smaller blocks to a building site for something like basic house, but that's just not the case with the pyramids.

Just out of interest, how do you think that ancient people with basic technology built the pyramids? How do you account for such heavy masses having to be moved against gravity? Even when you take account of animal assistance (horses, camels or possibly elephants?) it would not be enough power.
 

GADfan

Warrant Officer
Helen, out of the huge number of blocks used to construct pyramids, and especially the one at Giza, the average weight of the blocks was 2.5 tons. Certainly not beyond the capabilities of humans at that time to move.

In fact, Giza has a few blocks that go up to 40tons each and beyond, but these too were moved comparatively easily with a combination of machinery (sledges, roll logs, ropes) and sheer numbers of haulers (people or animals). It would take around 300 humans to pull a 40ton block on a sledge and since there were thousands of workers available that wasn't a problem. Bigger stone? More people and/or animals then.

There are also the wall paintings found in other pyramids and ancient structures. Some of these show huge blocks of stone on sledges being pulled by humans and what looks like water being used to dampen the sand in front of the sledge just enough to help it glide across with less effort.

So it was certainly possible then and definitely possible now since specialised modern terrain cranes can lift around 500tons.
 

Forwandert

Major-General
Ancient Egyptians have had it really rough. They had some serious beliefs in the afterlife and spent so much time and thought on creating these ways to ensure they could passover and continue their journey. To then spend their time many years later being passed around museums and private collections, they're technological efforts being considered as being by aliens.
 
klods hans

klods hans

Tsar
Even if aliens helped build the pyramids, it doesn't make aliens a culture. Then the aliens are just a part of the ancient Egypt culture. A workforce in the culture like slaves and camels.
 
Jouchka

Jouchka

Private
I'm not a fan of this. There are many interesting past cultures that still can get addressed.
If you look to Mughal Empire settlement, this just brings added value by giving players the chance to get a glimpse of this rather forgotten culture.
 
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