GE video tutorial (Guild Expedition) with minimal resource loss

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Goblin The Great King, May 17, 2018.

  1. Goblin The Great King

    Goblin The Great King Corporal

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  2. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    Minimal loss?

    You negotiate everything!
     
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  3. glavic

    glavic Chief Warrant Officer

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    hahaha, he obviously cares about troops more than goods :)
     
  4. Dimondus

    Dimondus Lieutenant

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    Well, when you have 0 military buildings and no Traz in your city there is nothing to care about :)

    Overall its a right approach to negotiate that many people surprisingly don't understand. The thing is you win unattached units and rogues from doing GE and its easier to fight at least through level 1 to get bonus ranking points and save some goods. First 8 encounters are very easy and don't require any attack/defense bonuses. As for speed, you can set units speed to 3 and when you know what you are doing its also pretty fast (maybe extra 5 min for first 16 encounters) and you definitely won't get back all goods spent in 5 min.
    Also I wonder how you got 10k diamonds? Do you have diamond farms in all other worlds on the server?
     
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  5. Goblin The Great King

    Goblin The Great King Corporal

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    My strategy is replacing all military buildings with productions buildings to get more goods even after negotiating through all 4 levels. Yes, I pay more to solve it without fighting, but I get +25 goods daily for every additional building.

    Not to mention the fact that doing negotiation takes less time than fighting.
     
  6. Goblin The Great King

    Goblin The Great King Corporal

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    You are right about the first level - it's easily doable with fights. But the whole fist level cost like 1 final negotiation round. So I just negotiate through all the GE.

    I only play at 16 (R) world. Diamonds are from supporing developers for such a well created game :blush:
     
  7. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    So?

    You get units along the way, don't you? You don't use them, so how can you call this minimal loss?
     
  8. Dimondus

    Dimondus Lieutenant

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    So you should take into account that not everyone is so generous :)
    While I also support devs but prefer to spend hard earned diamonds on expansions to get more space for my creativity. Same goes for medals. As long as I'm not capped on medal expansions I won't spend single one on anything else.
     
  9. Goblin The Great King

    Goblin The Great King Corporal

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    I use them for capturing the world map and progress. Actually it's possible to do 1 and 2 levels without unit loss too. I gues I don't like fighting in this game that much :)
     
  10. Goblin The Great King

    Goblin The Great King Corporal

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    I used medals only because I wanted to make this video in 1 piece and don't spend too much time on creating it. I don't usually use them in GE.
    As for crys - it's a free choice. I love how developers made this game completely free from pay to win. So it's just for getting some additional comfort and being grateful :)
     
  11. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    You call it minimal resource loss. It isn't. I fight through 4 lvls of GE and come out with more units than I went in with and no resources lost at all. That is minimal loss. This is only negotiating in minimal turns.
     
  12. Goblin The Great King

    Goblin The Great King Corporal

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    Well. You are free to make your guide then. Because there is a serious lack out there. And if you will be doing a 60+% attack and defence guide with Traz Rouges - then I bet not a big number of people will need it because people who played that much know the drill :) My guilde is mostly for new players.

    You are right with naming though. This should be names "Negotiation in GE with minimal loss"
     
  13. Agent327

    Agent327 Tsar

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    And you figured those new players never played Mastermind as a kid, so there would be a big use for this?
     
  14. bradype

    bradype Brigadier-General

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    You negociate very well on big encounters , but not on small ones . Better to offer 5 of one resource rather than 4 of one and 1 of another . This lowers the costs of a resource you're trying to keep and the chances that you select wrong resource on last turn when you don't have time to double check .
     
  15. eon1299

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    @bradype can you elaborate please? Lets say you have 5 options at the start of negotiations. Stone, Wood, Iron, Coins and Supplies. Is it better to offer 5 stones 1st round?
     
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  16. DarkUros222

    DarkUros222 Monarch

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    Imho, offeeing all five same resources is wasting attempt :)
     
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  17. Goblin The Great King

    Goblin The Great King Corporal

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    1. You have 4 turns. That means you have a chance to waste diamond ins case you test 1 by 1.
    2. If you want to test 1 resource it should be gold or supply - they are much cheaper than any other resource.
    3. Generally in your case you want to put 1 of each 1 Round. Then gold and supply and only then fill resources.
     
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  18. Xenophon the Prophet 576

    Xenophon the Prophet 576 Private

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    Thank you Goblin for creating this guide. As a newby, I found it very useful. I realise after watching your tutorial that I don't actually need an Alcatraz and that it is worth it to build the temple of relics :)
     
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  19. Galladhorn

    Galladhorn Brigadier-General

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    Thanks for the guide.

    I would really like to see a Figting Video particular on GE level 4.
    - If anybody knows a link to a Video or another good guide on this please share.
     

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