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Event Carnival Event 2019!

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Ceban

Brigadier-General
@Ceban its interesting that you only use the examples given to you that differ from your own strategies, only one person mentioned doubling up on florins, whereas multiple people, including myself, have said time and time again that they play in a similar way that you do and have not much luck.

You get offended when someone accused you of lying about getting 2x level 2 sets but cannot accept when multiply people have stated here that they were unsuccessful in getting a full set.

Can we just agree to disagree.

I’m just glad that this event is almost over!
ok, did you get one full set or will you get it at the end of event?
 

DeletedUser116785

if you end up in silver league you will get 2 more and if you end up in bronze you will get one more when event end cause you cant know where you wil end up when event finish, its in about 24 hours.
Sorry for my broken English, first. My question was about reward from the questline as I received only 1 reward (I can use it to either buy 1 building OR 1 upgrade).
 

DeletedUser116654

I really hope that they change it to 2 selection kits instead of 1, so that I can complete my set :D
The game's RNG has massacred my hope to get a complete set.
 

DeletedUser116785

Ok, what about the reward from bronze league? Half of a building?
 
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Ceban

Brigadier-General
@Ceban its interesting that you only use the examples given to you that differ from your own strategies, only one person mentioned doubling up on florins, whereas multiple people, including myself, have said time and time again that they play in a similar way that you do and have not much luck.

You get offended when someone accused you of lying about getting 2x level 2 sets but cannot accept when multiply people have stated here that they were unsuccessful in getting a full set.

Can we just agree to disagree.

I’m just glad that this event is almost over!
no, i got offended when he accused me that i am lying that i have any set, that i am lying that i have any decent town, that i am lying on few other threads about few other things not related to this topic and only truth was that guy cant see difference between diamond mine and main city and that he is incompetent to check even top 10 players on all worlds on international server wich he admitted later. Attacking without even some basic checking can make you look dumb pretty easy and those wich blindly like your posts without checking them can make them look even more incompetent... but we moved away from topic again, you told you got 1 set... with bad luck you got your set so i dont get how to NOT get one unless you put big effort to not get it.
 

DeletedUser116785

Well, atleast I'll get 2 incomplete lvl2 sets with max fps and goods. Only thing I'll be missing is lvl2 boosts for coins, supplies and attack on one building. So, overall it was a good event for me.
 

Ceban

Brigadier-General
Well, atleast I'll get 2 incomplete lvl2 sets with max fps and goods. Only thing I'll be missing is lvl2 boosts for coins, supplies and attack on one building. So, overall it was a good event for me.
long term fps wont be so important to you as attack so i would sugest that you upgrade both clock towers.
 

DeletedUser114342

no, i got offended when he accused me that i am lying that i have any set, that i am lying that i have any decent town, that i am lying on few other threads about few other things not related to this topic and only truth was that guy cant see difference between diamond mine and main city and that he is incompetent to check even top 10 players on all worlds on international server wich he admitted later. Attacking without even some basic checking can make you look dumb pretty easy and those wich blindly like your posts without checking them can make them look even more incompetent... but we moved away from topic again, you told you got 1 set... with bad luck you got your set so i dont get how to NOT get one unless you put big effort to not get it.

I never said I had bad luck, I said my luck was fair. I also said that most people will get the full set, but there will be people who won’t no matter how smart they played.

I was referring to you saying that if you have a full bar of tickets and you played the 15% game that you will be guaranteed to win. I have already said that I have lost on multiple times with 16 tickets. There was no win.

I also said let’s agree to disagree and you did say ‘ok’.

Congrats again on getting 2 complete sets. I hope your luck continues with the next event.
 

DeletedUser116785

I know, but in order to get there I need them fps. Little you can do when have only 50 fps per day (bar included). These 32 fps a day will speed up my advancement to the point where I 'll be able to ditch all special buildings.
 

DeletedUser112892

My point, with good luck you could get 2 sets, with bad luck at least one if you played properly and didnt waste tickets how they was coming and didnt waste florins on double rewards for pots of 180 florins and some more not so inteligent moves... so with your bad luck you still got level 2 set, that is what i was telling whole time, nothing else.
It is also under huge question mark.
I am thankful to God I've succeeded to get Piazza Mask Vendor upgrade kit from 1st attempt when I had less than 500 Florins, so now, I will be safe with 1 selection kit from questline and probably 1 from league placement. I was really afraid that I will not get than 1 full set, while going for chests more efficient for grand prize.
Once I wasted total of 5k Florins in one run to get no grand prize.
It is much better to have an event where you have guaranteed main event building by logging every day and completing questline, like every other event, except this one.
 

DeletedUser

I never told luck is zero factor in this event but what using double chance for pot of 180 have to do with luck??? what using all your tickets before ticket bar is full have to do with luck??? What spending florins in general on double chance unless that reward isnt extremley huge have to do with luck??? What spending of florins on anything else except set items or set upgrades have to do with luck??? What wise picking of chests (paying attention on number of florins/% to get main reward) have to do with luck??? I just came here and told to players how they can at least reduce luck factor cause they cant eliminate them but then some genius wich admited publicly how she use double chance for 180 florins told me event cant be influenced at all and that i am talking nonsences... i wonder how many of you wasted 20 aditional florins on every ticket for reward of 180 florins???


I am flabbergasted that I have to even explain this any further.
If you don’t get my point by now it’ll never happen.

You are aware of the reports from many people who did spend an outrageous amount of florins and have barely anything to show for?
They probably were just as on top of things as you describe with their tickets and had luck with neighbors and logged regularly to spend their tickets and so on and so forth.

Randomness at work because the likelihood does not rely upon the frequency in which you open chests.
Your chances are equal every single time you do so.
The odds are so very low that yes, I’d call you just lucky and you are not the only one.
But there are very unhappy people as well currently who may or may not decide to go wild premiumwise.

I surely hope not !
I sincerely hope they choose acceptance and bail out.

Obviously this makes you extremely lucky because you don’t have to decide to pay or fail.
The overal feel I get from your reply is that being lucky is a bad thing while I think in a casino conceptional thingy it is the best.

Congratulations you’re in the fortunate position that you’ve successfully finished this event but many others did not.
Isn’t it unfair to blame that on their lack of cleverness, devotion and skills?
Do you want to claim those people were stupid or could have done anything at all to avoid that situation?

Edit This is like celebrating victory at cost of those who’ve failed to complete that set due to lack of cleverness and whatnot.
I only wanted to point out that this is probably not so nice towards them.

Also that post was not specifically addressed to you but to everyone who feels they did something extremely good and make people feel a double failure in not being able to complete that set despite their best efforts and to top it off being told here they must have done something wrong and were just not as clever as those who did succeed.
Am I the only one who finds this a rather painful and undeserved approach?
 
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Emberguard

Legend
Any help or clarification is much needed!!! I just finished the questline (all 55 of them) and received only 1 reward ( 1 set building or 1 upgrade to a building). The whole time I was expecting to get 2 rewards, as their image show. I based my belief on images from event league, where bronze league gives 1 reward and silver and gold 2. I will finish in silver league, what am I to expect to get there 1 or 2 rewards? I was really counting on these questline rewards to complete the set, it was disappointing to receive only 1.
My question is, is this a bug ans should I write to support or am I misunderstand something? Thanks

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Look at the image in the spoiler tag. If what you saw is the same as where it says "piazza selection kit" then it's not a bug. It's just a different way of representing that there's multiple choices within the kits (base pieces / upgrades). Each selection kit is only ever one prize it just allows you a choice

Out of the selection kits in the screenshot the Halloween kit and runestone also are either base building or upgrade and those show two images of the building. So that part is consistent, it's just displayed differently.
 

DeletedUser

This is just so sad for people..
Inno what were you thinking out there for Christ sakes!
Please let people’s efforts not go for waste and include this set and the upgrades in the dailies :(
Just so nobody is missing out by one or two single pieces.
 

Ceban

Brigadier-General
I am flabbergasted that I have to even explain this any further.
If you don’t get my point by now it’ll never happen.

You are aware of the reports from many people who did spend an outrageous amount of florins and have barely anything to show for?
They probably were just as on top of things as you describe with their tickets and had luck with neighbors and logged regularly to spend their tickets and so on and so forth.

Randomness at work because the likelihood does not rely upon the frequency in which you open chests.
Your chances are equal every single time you do so.
The odds are so very low that yes, I’d call you just lucky and you are not the only one.
But there are very unhappy people as well currently who may or may not decide to go wild premiumwise.

I surely hope not !
I sincerely hope they choose acceptance and bail out.

Obviously this makes you extremely lucky because you don’t have to decide to pay or fail.
The overal feel I get from your reply is that being lucky is a bad thing while I think in a casino conceptional thingy it is the best.

Congratulations you’re in the fortunate position that you’ve successfully finished this event but many others did not.
Isn’t it unfair to blame that on their lack of cleverness, devotion and skills?
Do you want to claim those people were stupid or could have done anything at all to avoid that situation?

Edit This is like celebrating victory at cost of those who’ve failed to complete that set due to lack of cleverness and whatnot.
I only wanted to point out that this is probably not so nice towards them.

Also that post was not specifically addressed to you but to everyone who feels they did something extremely good and make people feel a double failure in not being able to complete that set despite their best efforts and to top it off being told here they must have done something wrong and were just not as clever as those who did succeed.
Am I the only one who finds this a rather painful and undeserved approach?
you obviously missed my first few posts on this thread otherwise you wouldnt write this now, obviously we talk about diferent things, on day 3 of event (when some players didnt know how they will finish this event, lucky or unlucky) they was already crying here, back then i didnt know how i will finish it, will i be 'winner' or 'loser' but i just came and gave few advices about playing it. I gave them few advices how to reduce luck factor at smallest possible level (to not use tickets before bar is full or almost full, to not use double chance unless pot is really huge, if their bar is full and neither one pot is filled to go after 15% game and few others) all in best intention to help them and then got publicly crusified how i even dare to say it isnt all about luck... just one of examples of those wich think like that is player wich use double chance for pot of 180, did you do that??? Fact is that you can reduce luck factor with few things and players wich did all opposite was stating it cant be done and was crying here, my whole point was if you played avargely smart even without luck factor event/questline will give you 4 pieces of set, what are the chances that you wont get 1 trough whole event in chests??? Repeating, you cant eliminate luck factor but on some way you can reduce it but when i told it then few players got breakdown how i dare to think different than them just cause i wanted to help them with advices how to reduce luck factor.
 

Thomas Covenent

Lieutenant-General
then you explain to me how it works pls, really want to hear it.
and pls answer on this:
'I never told luck is zero factor in this event but what using double chance for pot of 180 have to do with luck??? what using all your tickets before ticket bar is full have to do with luck??? What spending florins in general on double chance unless that reward isnt extremley huge have to do with luck??? What spending of florins on anything else except set items or set upgrades have to do with luck??? What wise picking of chests (paying attention on number of florins/% to get main reward) have to do with luck??? I just came here and told to players how they can at least reduce luck factor cause they cant eliminate them but then some genius wich admited publicly how she use double chance for 180 florins told me event cant be influenced at all and that i am talking nonsences... i wonder how many of you wasted 20 aditional florins on every ticket for reward of 180 florins???'
Well, because you asked...
Here's how a basic RNG system actually works, using the example of an old 3DS game - Dragon Quest V. In this game, you could recruit monsters by fighting battles against them, with a random chance that certain monsters will offer to join you after winning a battle.
It's the same principals as any RNG system, which very basically works as;
25.0% likely to win within: <V> instances
50.0% likely to win within: <W> instances
75.0% likely to win within: <X> instances
95.0% likely to win within: <Y> instances
99.9% likely to win within: <Z> instances
...basically, the more times you spend a ticket/open a chest, the more likely you are to win a prize.
BUT!
Due to how random variance works, please note the fact that the numbers will never reach 100%
The smaller your overall sample size, the greater the factor for what is termed 'RNG Screwage' (totally a word!)

Example using DQ5's monster recruitment system:
(note, spoilered due to size!)
The purpose of this section is to enable you to calculate your own probability
values so that you can get more specific info on how many battles recruitment
should take, or to see how badly the random nature of recruitment is screwing
you over.

First, I want to clarify something about probability. If an event is said to
have a 1/256 chance of occurring, that does not mean that you are guaranteed
to have that event occur after 256 attempts. It simply means that you are
"likely" to have it by that point. As a general rule, if something has a
1/X chance of occuring, then it will occur within X attempts 66% of the time.

What this means for you, is that if you want to catch a Barbatos, which has a
1/256 chance after one valid battle, then two-thirds of people will catch one
within 256 valid battles. The other one-third of people will take longer.
Perhaps a lot longer. Don't let this deter you from trying to catch these
rare monsters though! The luckiest one-third of people who try to catch them,
do so within 104 battles. It's even possible to catch one in your very first
battle. That's just the nature of probability.

Now, here is the math to help you figure this all out:

Variables:
Pr = Probability of Recruiting the monster in one valid battle
Pn = Probability of catching the monster within n valid battles
n = number of valid battles fought with monster


Forward Problem:
To compute the probability 'Pn' of catching a monster within 'n' valid battles:

Pn = 1 - (1-Pr)^n

Example:

You are trying to catch a Liquid Metal Slime and have fought 654 valid battles
and still have not recruited one. To find out the probability of catching one
within 654 valid battles:

Pr = 1/256 for a Liquid Metal Slime
n = 654 valid battles

Pn = 1 - (1 - (1/256))^654
Pn = 1 - (255/256)^654
Pn = 1 - 0.077328696
Pn = 0.92267 = 92%

Thus 92% of people will have caught a Liquid Metal Slime by this point.

Welcome to math.
Painkillers for that splitting headache it induces sadly don't make it any better!:P
 
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