Emma999
Captain
Don't give them ideas, lol.
If lv 5 goes to live like the way it is, I think most of us won't be happy.
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beta forum spoiler GE lvl 5
- Thread starter Shad23
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If lv 5 goes to live like the way it is, I think most of us won't be happy.
P.Pixie
Corporal
Everything in this new GE is fragments ... 360 fragments for a ritual flame 720 for a terrace farm or fountain of youth and so on everything is fragmented.. madness!, then there's Level 5 and the impossible task of fighting through it and if not the extremely high cost to neg it.
Its very disappointing.
Its very disappointing.
Steve.D70
Corporal
If level 5 goes live like this or even if they cut the requirements in half, I think most of us won't be playing it!
Who in their right mind would think that the defence stats needed and the 10k goods needed was a good idea? How did it even get this far at 50% of the requirements?
I actually said in my guild the only way this is real is if it's released on April 1st then it reduces to its "real" level.
angry hamster
Corporal
Mmm, it's exciting, to get GE 5 building up SBC !!!
My concern is the diamonds !! I have two other worlds, that are set to blast GE. To get diamonds.
I have been told diamonds will be halved on rewards ????
If that's the case, the game must be in breach of contract ! As I would have set up diamond farms !
They can't change the money side ! Diamond's, as you have spent years setting up worlds, to play game, you started, falls under a contract of play ?
Does anyone know about diamond reduction ?
I see on this thread, no diamonds on five.
So will diamonds remain in 4 to be level we presently have ????
Thanks guys.
My concern is the diamonds !! I have two other worlds, that are set to blast GE. To get diamonds.
I have been told diamonds will be halved on rewards ????
If that's the case, the game must be in breach of contract ! As I would have set up diamond farms !
They can't change the money side ! Diamond's, as you have spent years setting up worlds, to play game, you started, falls under a contract of play ?
Does anyone know about diamond reduction ?
I see on this thread, no diamonds on five.
So will diamonds remain in 4 to be level we presently have ????
Thanks guys.
klods hans
Tsar
"Contract of play"? There is no such thing. They can change whatever they want in the game, e.g. remove the chance of diamonds from WW's and FoY's and thus make all diamond farms useless.
Isn't it rather the players that breach the "contract of play" by exploiting features of the game by building diamond farms, farming GBG, speed leveling GB's with Arc boosts, cycling recurring quests etc etc?
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angry hamster
Corporal
So all that said !!! Still no answer to my question !!!!!!!
rather, try and show how great you are !!! Not.......
rather, try and show how great you are !!! Not.......
TheKingOfKool
Monarch
They thoroughly fragmented the entire game - it is becoming quite boring & disheartening to continue to press on with it.
Won't surprise me one bit if they start paying out fragments of diamonds
Won't surprise me one bit if they start paying out fragments of diamonds
Emberguard
Legend
The contract of play (aka terms of conditions) only says not to exploit bugs. It doesn't say anything about taking a feature to its most extreme within its intended mechanics. Diamond farms are not even remotely a bug, neither is speed leveling or farming Guild Battlegrounds
It's a intended feature that I'm sure if we were to go over all the publicly available correspondence of Developers and InnoGames employees we'd find either explicit or implied consent to utilize as a intended feature, and I'm sure we'd see it repeated multiple times if we were to look hard enough. Particularly if we included all Q&A's in that
klods hans
Tsar
Yes. We have the ToC as a "contract of play" and it doesn't say anything about twisting intended features of the game to get the most out of them.
But it's not a "breach of contract" from Inno's side if they decide to cut diamond rewards in half or remove some of them entirely, e.g. the chance of diamonds from WW's or from GE.
Emberguard
Legend
I agree. That wouldn't be a breach of contract in itself. I'm also not expecting any current players to particularly like a reduction in diamond pay out though
Ariana Erosaire
Lieutenant
So far the changes in beta cut possible diamonds earned from GE in half.
*presses go on angry hamster rage machine*
it sounds cute, let's see what it does?TheKingOfKool
Monarch
From past actions, this is unlikely to happen; they will only react to what actually happens once it goes live.
Steve.D70
Corporal
Then let's hope everyone boycotts it because I can't believe that any sane person would think 2k goods/500% defence boost was a good idea never mind the actual 10k goods/2500% boost.
Shad23
Emperor
when they created PVP tower there was a riot on beta forum , there is presently almost as much bad feedback as when they created that pvp tower
Paladiac the Pure
Major-General
Why do people keep calling it PvP tower, when there is absolutely no PvP involved. Better to call is Tower City defense or something like that. People, especially newer players will get confused if they hear about a PvP activity here, when no such activity exists.
Maybe better to label it as City Defense Tower.
Ariana Erosaire
Lieutenant
Better yet, it's not called PvP Tower either, it's the PvP ARENA, lol.
PvP towers are the original things on the continent maps that we unlock by scouting each new age, on which we compete with our hoods every week to see who gets the most points - that's what winning towers was about, just scoring more battles/points for the week. This competition over points is what lead to champ farming in gvg sectors, and that was nipped in the bud in GvG by guilds not being able to retake a sector they release in the same day, yet farming much more than points on a tower continues unabated with free attrition in Battlegrounds for 3+ years.
You know back before level 80 arcs removed medal scarcity, people actually cared about winning their PvP Towers. now it's mostly symbolic...
But please, this is now off topic, carry on protesting the changes being made to GE. GE has needed rebalancing/updating for a long time, but not into fragments or an impossible to complete 5th level. The guild power from GE is still set to 2016 rates, it produces for a guild 0 prestige for guild ranking, and only about 1/4 of the power per week as even placing last in any diamond league battlegrounds. Poor GE, it's like the forgotten step child of the guild competitions.
PK23
Private
realy hope this does not go live like it is now if it does i predict eather a riot or guilds will massively not open it pls INNO rethink your numbers
i sugest players go massively open yourselves a beta forum account to massively go riot about this overthere befor it hits live
i sugest players go massively open yourselves a beta forum account to massively go riot about this overthere befor it hits live
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Forwandert
General
Players could have easily ignored lvl 5 if they didn't want to build def or negotiate but now they've nerfed all the lvl rewards, reduced the diamond rewards and swapped out full building prizes to fragments on lvl 1-4. Not too sure why nerf after so many years but it seems a very odd change to make. I understand the dia but not the swap to fragments.