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118m points and 53k attacks in 12 days

Ezelprime

Private
Nice one mate, congrats.
I assume it`s not only from GBG and also assume that somebody filled up GvG towers for you to create figths. Highly doubt that you made 53k fights in GBG or GvG in the fair play but hey, either way that`s an impressive number.The problem I have is the numbers
1 SAAB fight = 3342.3 points so 53000*3342.3=177,141,900 mllion points so you are clearly lying on that you made this whole fights in SAAB era :) Nice try, wrong numbers :)
 

Ezelprime

Private
maybe he fought other era troops, but 50k fights needs dedication lol


That proves my point, in gbg you fight against normal troops for full amount of points. These fights got done in GvG which isn`t a big deal when somebody gives you filled towers. But I respect the dedication
 

Emberguard

Legend
1 SAAB fight = 3342.3 points
I think that number may be slightly less then the actual numbers if enthusiastic
Champion = 21,000 battle points
Everything else = 17,500 battle points

17,500 x 8 = 140,000 battle points / 50 = 2,800 ranking points (3,360 if enthusiastic)
21,000 x 8 = 168,000 battle points / 50 = 3,360 ranking points (4,021 if enthusiastic)

Then deduct points for damage taken to own units.


53,000 x 2,800 = 148,400,000 ranking points
53,000 x 3,360 = 178,080,000 ranking points

If they had actually done 53,000 fights then they'd be having to swap out thousands of troops each day. Not necessarily killed, but definitely wounded troops to the value of 30,400,000 (no champs) - 60,080,000 (champs or enthusiastic normal) ranking points
Math:​
148,400,000 - 118,000,000 = 30,400,000 ranking points lost in damages​
178,080,000 - 118,000,000 = 60,080,000 ranking points lost in damages (champs or enthusiastic normal units)​

If I've correctly calculated that'd mean going through between 86,858 - 143,048 of his own troops in damages over 12 days. That breaks down to 7,239 - 11,921 troops daily. If they're retaining troops that'd require a much bigger stock then 7,239 as that number represents full health troops.
Math:​
30,400,000 x 50 = 1,520,000,000 battles points / 17,500 = 86,857.12 full health troops lost / 12 days = 7,239.09 units lost per day​
60,080,000 x 50 = 3,004,000,000 battle points / 21,000 = 143,047.62 full health troops lost / 12 days = 11,920.63 champion units or enthusiastic normal units lost per day​
 

r21r

Major-General
@Emberguard he could also farm "Sieges" instead of sectors, so he invested less units from his inventory, but more from his guildmates.
or just quests if he has that high attack to not lose a troop, but as ezel proved, he wasn't fighting saab troops
 

Emberguard

Legend
but as ezel proved, he wasn't fighting saab troops
That assumes no damages which would reduce the points gained.

If it were GvG then it'd either be a combination of different ages or one age with damages given none of the ages match on its own anywhere in the ballpark of 118k over 53,000 fights without involving damages. Oceanic is way too low (70m - 115m if enthusiastic) and Virtual is too high (101m-122m if enthusiastic)
 

r21r

Major-General
he would need 8 troops x 8 times to fill 1 sector so he farms 79 fights (say 80)
so he needs 52.000/80 = 650 (siege armies needed + full DA's refill on the sector) which means 650x64*(*which is the units needed for a sector to be filled with DA's) = 41.600 Troops as DA's + what units he placed as a Siege Army which is calculated as 650x8 (sieges placed x 8 troops each siege) = 5.200.

So if he (and who placed the DA's) where using Rogues, this would cost them 41.600 Rogues as DA's + 5.200 as Siege Armies = 56.800 total.
on this senario he wouldn't lose a single troop as he was fighting rogues, and also the 41.600 number can be splitted within the guild, so considering 40members have a traz above 50lvl would produce... 75 rogues a day ? 41.600/75 = 554 days... maybe they had lot's of troops or way higher Alcatraz's

unless i am wrong with those calculations, it is not that hard to do by troops means, it needs insane amount of time though..
 
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Emberguard

Legend
mb 7 rogues + something, or just 8 rogues idk, got lazy to calculate :D
Versing 8 rogues for the majority of that would be out of the question. That's 4 ranking points per rogue total and points are based on what you defeated. Your own army merely deducts points from the enemy unit point value

The rogues would have to take on another form to be worth anything to the extent the OP is suggesting.
 

knycknac

Private
Now firstly I am not lying as I just implied it could be me which is what I wanted to do to see initial reaction
Now go and look at player Xxsupr in fel server, he uses bot to play as do many others of that guild .... dragons ..... many times it has been reported and nothing ever done
Thanks for very much confirming some of my figures
 

knycknac

Private
And I should add when you check the stats roughly same figure when bg on or off which highlights issue as in 1 day it reached nearly 8.5k fights... me personally I am wrecked if I do 1.5k in a day ask me to do 1.5k for 7 days and I will have given up by the 4th.... 1k I would be OK with
 

Emberguard

Legend
The above conversation doesn't confirm a bot, it confirms a lot of damages occurred to his troops. His Alcatraz would only take 70-120 days to produce the troops needed and the Governor's Villa would reduce that time further as would the Himeji and Space Carrier. If you look at the points graph he hadn't been doing nearly as many battles prior to those 12 days. So he could have been taking time to store up the troops to make it possible.

When doing the calculations I had looked your account up and saw you had 2.5k points gained not 53k. Now that you've given me a name I can see it would be far more plausible then it initially looked due to what's actually in his city and the fact SAAB has an unlimited amount of battles available to that age
 
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Ezelprime

Private
And I should add when you check the stats roughly same figure when bg on or off which highlights issue as in 1 day it reached nearly 8.5k fights... me personally I am wrecked if I do 1.5k in a day ask me to do 1.5k for 7 days and I will have given up by the 4th.... 1k I would be OK with
Basically you could have found it out in easier way without wasting others time or getting reactions. Just go ahead and do the math that`s always gives the truth. 53k fights would be difficult for everyone, even if somebody filles up towers in GvG but doable without cheating or using bots. Filling up towers not against the rules so......regarding bots......INNO spot bots easily so if he/she used it then he/she will caught soon.
 

Ezelprime

Private
I think that number may be slightly less then the actual numbers if enthusiastic
Champion = 21,000 battle points
Everything else = 17,500 battle points

17,500 x 8 = 140,000 battle points / 50 = 2,800 ranking points (3,360 if enthusiastic)
21,000 x 8 = 168,000 battle points / 50 = 3,360 ranking points (4,021 if enthusiastic)

Then deduct points for damage taken to own units.


53,000 x 2,800 = 148,400,000 ranking points
53,000 x 3,360 = 178,080,000 ranking points

If they had actually done 53,000 fights then they'd be having to swap out thousands of troops each day. Not necessarily killed, but definitely wounded troops to the value of 30,400,000 (no champs) - 60,080,000 (champs or enthusiastic normal) ranking points
Math:​
148,400,000 - 118,000,000 = 30,400,000 ranking points lost in damages​
178,080,000 - 118,000,000 = 60,080,000 ranking points lost in damages (champs or enthusiastic normal units)​

If I've correctly calculated that'd mean going through between 86,858 - 143,048 of his own troops in damages over 12 days. That breaks down to 7,239 - 11,921 troops daily. If they're retaining troops that'd require a much bigger stock then 7,239 as that number represents full health troops.
Math:​
30,400,000 x 50 = 1,520,000,000 battles points / 17,500 = 86,857.12 full health troops lost / 12 days = 7,239.09 units lost per day​
60,080,000 x 50 = 3,004,000,000 battle points / 21,000 = 143,047.62 full health troops lost / 12 days = 11,920.63 champion units or enthusiastic normal units lost per day​
This calculation is perfect to be honest.Nice job!
I would only suggest that I meant those points based on my attack boost (1200/425) as if you have my boost then you do not get wounded until attrition 17 and don`t lose troops until attrition 32-36(depends on AO).
If there is a good GBG management then you are rarely go over attrition 17, so if the guy have my kinda boost then he could have done it without losing troops but it is very unlikely happened
 
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