100's of unfair Market listings

[Xeon of Camelot]

Grrr! The markets are being abused often by just one player with 100's unfair trades.
Perhaps there should be more limits or control, they hurt my eyes scrolling through them.

 

[PeePee Pleb]

If he is your friend, unfriend him, even if he aids you and visits your tavern daily.
If he is your neighbor, then you will have to wait for neighborhood change.Had a player like that in my neighborhood for 2 weeks, so I know the feeling

 

[thelegend88]

Forwarded: - Stack Identical Market Trades

Proposal: Make identical trades created by the same player stackable instead of showing multiple copies of the same trades. Have you checked the forums for the same or similar idea : Yes Reason: Current system displays all trades in separate lines in the market which makes it difficult to...

forum.en.forgeofempires.com

After this long time I've lost hope it will be implemented ever but it could have helped.

 

[Paladiac the Pure]

Grrr! The markets are being abused often by just one player with 100's unfair trades.
Perhaps there should be more limits or control, they hurt my eyes scrolling through them.

You may consider those trades to be unfair - but obviously some people must be accepting of them, otherwise that player (in this instance) would not continue to do so many of those trades. Beauty, as well as the value of a trade, is all in the eye of the beholder, as well as a buyer. Also, obviously Inno games considers these trades acceptable, since this this kind of trading practice has not been stopped.

 

[PeePee Pleb]

I must admit that even I, when I'm desperate for specific goods accept those unfair trades just to be able to e.g. complete one province. Shame I'm letting the scammer scam other people

 

[Xeon of Camelot]

Beauty, as well as the value of a trade, is all in the eye of the beholder

Let's just say it doesn't look pretty at all. As far as I am concerned it is a market exploit done by very few players who make the game less enjoyable. There is good reason why they should stack and put a limit on the amount of trades an individual player can list.

 

[FantasticMrFrank]

Its a free market you cant cap it, but they could stack it like they do in guild trades duplicates of same trades

 

[Xeon of Camelot]

Its a free market you cant cap it,

Listing fees would be a preventative.

 

[GADfan]

Xeon,
Your first point: IMO, in this game there's no such thing as an 'unfair' trade. The 'only trade one era up or down' etiquette is player invented.
If two players agree to deal then it's a valid trade. If you don't agree to the trade then you simply ignore it.

Your second point: totally agree about the multiple, same trade offer. It should be stackable, as has been suggested.

 

[Xeon of Camelot]

IMO, in this game there's no such thing as an 'unfair' trade.

Well guild members all should know what a fair trade is so an unfair trade is the opposite.
I know the inno dev team are busy with many things and this might not seem a high priority but with more players who abuse what they can because they are allowed to should not be encouraged.

 

[GADfan]

Well guild members all should know what a fair trade is so an unfair trade is the opposite.
I know the inno dev team are busy with many things and this might not seem a high priority but with more players who abuse what they can because they are allowed to should not be encouraged.

I'm not in a guild, and neither are many others, so that point doesn't always apply.
If guilds and their members require fair / equal trades then that's up to them and those who join that guild know the rules.
Again, a fair trade is one where both parties are happy to agree to it. No-one is forced into trades they don't want to do.
If any player requires goods from any era (and wants to trade over several eras to get them) why shouldn't they be allowed to do that?

I don't understand why anyone can be that bothered about a trade they don't want to be part of. If it's not for you, or you don't agree with it, then ignore it.

 

[Xeon of Camelot]

No-one is forced into trades they don't want to do.

No, but these market spammers who list lots of trades taking advantage of newbs, force me to click to move on a page and I don't like that.

If it's not for you, or you don't agree with it, then ignore it.

Ignoring is not an option, it requires effort to find the fair trades amongst all the unfair ones.

 

[GADfan]

No, but these market spammers who list lots of trades taking advantage of newbs, force me to click to move on a page and I don't like that.

Ignoring is not an option, it requires effort to find the fair trades amongst all the unfair ones.

How are they taking advantage of newbs? If any player, new or not, doesn't want to do that trade, they won't.
You're making assumptions.

I meant ignore as in don't take the trade, not as in go past it.

What you're basically saying is that players shouldn't post lots of trades because it inconveniences you to go through them.
Well, until Inno bring in a stackable system this is the only one we've got.
And who gave you the right to say how many trades a player can list?

 

[Xeon of Camelot]

Lots of good feedback in this thread, other solutions could be an option for players to block a named players listings from showing in open market or inno use an improved algorithm to list the fair trades first.

 

[PeePee Pleb]

Lots of good feedback in this thread, other solutions could be an option for players to block a named players listings from showing in open market or inno use an improved algorithm to list the fair trades first.

Hmmm, now I wonder if you can see trades from neighbors you are ignoring.

 

[GADfan]

Lots of good feedback in this thread, other solutions could be an option for players to block a named players listings from showing in open market or inno use an improved algorithm to list the fair trades first.

By all means make suggestions on improving the trade system. More filters and stacking are excellent ideas.
But please don't keep referring to trades you aren't interested in as "unfair". They may be of interest and "fair" to another player.
"Unfair" makes them seem corrupt or immoral.

 

[PeePee Pleb]

But please don't keep referring to trades you aren't interested in as "unfair". They may be of interest and "fair" to another player.
"Unfair" makes them seem corrupt or immoral.

Have one thing in mind, newbie players don't know that clean fair trade is when you trade goods for 1 era lower or higher than goods you are offering. They think that clean fair trade is just any trade at ratio of 1:2 or 2:1, so they would think that it's fair even to get VF goods by paying IA goods, as long as it's 2:1.

 

[Xeon of Camelot]

"Unfair" makes them seem corrupt or immoral.

Not corrupt or immoral, it's mainly spam due to the vast quantities a very few players list.
It's similar to the constant annoying ads we get when browsing the web, if Inno decide to do something about it they have plenty of options.

 

[GADfan]

Have one thing in mind, newbie players don't know that clean fair trade is when you trade goods for 1 era lower or higher than goods you are offering. They think that clean fair trade is just any trade at ratio of 1:2 or 2:1, so they would think that it's fair even to get VF goods by paying IA goods, as long as it's 2:1.

I would think that any Iron Age newb getting VF goods in a trade is a great trade, lol !
And, if newbs think they can list any era-to-era trade then those trades are unlikely to be accepted, and hopefully their guild or another player will tell them why.
I do like your distinction though of "clean" trade to mean only those between "touching" eras. Maybe that could be one of the filters Xeon is hoping for.

 

[PeePee Pleb]

I would think that any Iron Age newb getting VF goods in a trade is a great trade, lol !
And, if newbs think they can list any era-to-era trade then those trades are unlikely to be accepted, and hopefully their guild or another player will tell them why.
I do like your distinction though of "clean" trade to mean only those between "touching" eras. Maybe that could be one of the filters Xeon is hoping for.

IA newbie would think he can get them, but the trade will just stay there without anybody accepting it, so it's basically fully useless trade for anyone except somebody who has deal with him