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Event Archaeology Event Feedback

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DeletedUser103773

Why? It’s Beta and they can offer up whatever prizes they want and it really should be taken with a pinch of salt as to wether the same prizes will make it to live. The point of Beta is functionally testing and bug finding, not making sure you’re happy with what set of daily specials are on offer.
Inno are fully aware that the main reason that so many players support Beta is because the information learned is used to develop strategies for the live servers. They are also aware from this forum what expectations they have created for this event. Good business practice is to keep customers happy, not make them angry and frustrated. I have played this game for 8 years, both on Beta and multiple worlds on live. I don't ever remember a prize being offered in an event on Beta which has not made it to live. If Inno had stated that CS was being withdrawn, most of us would have been disappointed and just got on with the event. By saying nothing, despite the issue being raised on the forum, Inno have allowed a completely avoidable situation grow. This really has compromised the event and ruined the enjoyment of it for many.
 

Dead-Eye

General
Frankly, I think that Inno should be thoroughly ashamed. By offering checkmate square on Beta they have knowingly created an expectation for the live servers. They are fully aware from this forum that thousands of players have been patiently waiting for it. By holding it back for so long they have compromised those players chances of ever being able to use any tablets won efficiently. Congratulations Inno, this cynical behavior has created many thousands of very frustrated and angry customers. They have also lost untold diamond sales since most of us are sitting with large numbers of scrolls to use and nothing really to spend them on. Kind of sad really - not good business practice to disappoint so many loyal customers.



The world, like Inno Games, owes you nothing!


Now stop moaning and get outta your moms basement for a few hours. That will calm you down.
 

FLKMAMS

Sergeant
The world, like Inno Games, owes you nothing!


Now stop moaning and get outta your moms basement for a few hours. That will calm you down.

what that "owes you nothing" means?. I buy diamonds regulary, and I dont ask them to do whatever I want because of that, but not create innecesary bad situations. The world is the world, but Inno Games is a company. That means one thing; among all the players, there are customers too. So if they dont want to keep a healthy game environment because of the formers, they have to do it because of the latters. And that doesnt mean to do all what the players/customers want, it doesnt. What that means is they have to take care about their own actions. It´s just that.
 

Forwandert

Major-General
Whole thing has turned into very poor planning either way now. Even if they do put CMS out there are some players that will have panicked at the second round of carousel and used scrolls then.

So if CMS doesnt show as a daily there will be complaints and if it does show there will be complaints.. You would assume someone responsible for the event planning would have seen that coming but I guess they arent the ones having to read or deal with all the complaints.
 

syjytg

Master Corporal
Whole thing has turned into very poor planning either way now. Even if they do put CMS out there are some players that will have panicked at the second round of carousel and used scrolls then.

So if CMS doesnt show as a daily there will be complaints and if it does show there will be complaints.. You would assume someone responsible for the event planning would have seen that coming but I guess they arent the ones having to read or deal with all the complaints.

Those who chose to gamble on CMS not appearing and played on carousel instead have no right to complain. It is the same as losing in a casino.
 

Agent327

Overlord
Frankly, I think that Inno should be thoroughly ashamed. By offering checkmate square on Beta they have knowingly created an expectation for the live servers. They are fully aware from this forum that thousands of players have been patiently waiting for it. By holding it back for so long they have compromised those players chances of ever being able to use any tablets won efficiently. Congratulations Inno, this cynical behavior has created many thousands of very frustrated and angry customers. They have also lost untold diamond sales since most of us are sitting with large numbers of scrolls to use and nothing really to spend them on. Kind of sad really - not good business practice to disappoint so many loyal customers.

What took you so long?

You forgot to mention you will quit the game.

Yes, beta server is a testing one. But it´s for both of us. Inno can knows about problems, and we try to know about what it is coming, to adapt our strategies.
They knew what would be happen. the CMS would create expectation. If they didnt want any mess, they should not release it. It wasnt enough with the carousel?, why to release both of them in beta?. People would have understood easier if CS would be released or not, if CMS appears in beta, and then we see carousel in normal server. It would be pretti obvious. But they prefered to released both of them in beta, who knows why...

Good point. You try to know what is coming. Beauty of trying is that you can fail :P
 

Forwandert

Major-General
Those who chose to gamble on CMS not appearing and played on carousel instead have no right to complain. It is the same as losing in a casino.

So no one has a right to complain. As some are gambling on the CMS appearing.

Yet someone will either way.
 

FLKMAMS

Sergeant
Those who chose to gamble on CMS not appearing and played on carousel instead have no right to complain. It is the same as losing in a casino.
with one difference, in a casino, 2 options mean 50%/50%; it´s simple, the ball rounds and rounds, and it stops wherever it wants to. In FoE there are people who stop the ball on the number they want, so before that, you never know which is the correct option to take.
But i dont know why that risk on our heads is soo neccesary. I mean. Why we have to be afraid about our actions all the time?, why we have to be worried all the time about "uff, i could take this, but perhaps there is something better later" or the opposite?. The only thing people earn in beta is some info. is it too much for inno?
 

DeletedUser96901

actually it has 75%
3 out of the 4 missing things will come. one of them is the CMS
 

FLKMAMS

Sergeant
This is not a 50/50 at all. it´s not a coin flipping. There it´s a 50/50 becasuse the coin can fall on one or another side, and we cant know. But both of them are possible.
All this mess comes because we really dont know if CMS are possible or not. Inno showed one coin in beta which included a CMS. The problem is, we started the event thinking Inno was flipping the same coin in normal servers, but not we think it´s not. If they flip the same coin, it´s just impossible we can get CMS in this event.
 

DeletedUser96901

actually we know that CMS is a possible daily special
we only don't know if it will be a daily special

Inno gave us a list of rewards (things they gave on beta)
and then they removed one from it

This is not a 50/50 at all.
correct
at the moment it is 75%
 

Goremise

Lieutenant-General
The dock came, and we got a 400 diamond chance at the CS 10 times over. (I actually tried for it there, 10 times failed to drop CS, typical :p)

So expecting the CS was actually moved to the 4k chance price tag.

Still a chance of it appearing though, but its one theory.

Really though, if they didn't have it as a beta prize, none of this would have happened, its like they like toying with us. Its bad business practice usually to do something like this, play with your customer base like this and treat them badly.

If we'd just got it when it was supposed to come, everything would have been fine, if they didn't have it as a reward on beta, everything would have been fine. So many ways they could have done this better for the customer perspective.
 

FLKMAMS

Sergeant
actually we know that CMS is a possible daily special
we only don't know if it will be a daily special

Inno gave us a list of rewards (things they gave on beta)
and then they removed one from it


correct
at the moment it is 75%
So, are you saying that you think it´s as probably to get the CMS in the next 3 days, as at the beginning of the event?. Because i think your vision is the opposite of the rest of the people (eh, or i missunderstand you, i´m not english speaker).
At the beginning of the event CMS was a possible daily special?, yes. And did people think there was a high probability it was released? yes. So it´s was likely possible.
But i think now there is a difference. We are still thinking it´s possible because we want to get it. We moved by facts before (it was released on beta, and we took that as a fact), but now I think people move more by hope and resignation than facts. Because the facts are, in my opinion, a bit more on the side of "unlikely" than "likely". That would mean, it would be unlikely probably to get it, even if it´s possible. And it´s all about that.

There are more factors than be or not a special price in beta or so. Perhaps, at the beginning of everything, they wanted to use the same list. that meant it was highly probably to get it in servers. Perhaps they decided not to release it because of the high demand of CMS and how people could up the off bonus with it, and that would mean it would be impossible to get it. Later, all this mess perhaps made them to change the opinion, or think about, changing the chance of released it constantly.

From my point of view, why have to start thinking if it´s possible or not they changed of opinión, after adding the new facts we know.
 

Agent327

Overlord
with one difference, in a casino, 2 options mean 50%/50%; it´s simple, the ball rounds and rounds, and it stops wherever it wants to. me info. is it too much for inno?

In a casino that ball has 3 options.

All this mess comes because we really dont know if CMS are possible or not.

That's how it is supposed to be.

Inno showed one coin in beta which included a CMS. The problem is, we started the event thinking Inno was flipping the same coin in normal servers, but not we think it´s not. If they flip the same coin, it´s just impossible we can get CMS in this event.

That's your problem, not Inno's. If you think you will win the lotery, should you win it because of that?
 
Frankly, I think that Inno should be thoroughly ashamed. By offering checkmate square on Beta they have knowingly created an expectation for the live servers. They are fully aware from this forum that thousands of players have been patiently waiting for it. By holding it back for so long they have compromised those players chances of ever being able to use any tablets won efficiently. Congratulations Inno, this cynical behavior has created many thousands of very frustrated and angry customers. They have also lost untold diamond sales since most of us are sitting with large numbers of scrolls to use and nothing really to spend them on. Kind of sad really - not good business practice to disappoint so many loyal customers.


I still believe they will add CMS, I really can't imagine they would dissapoint and anger so many people who spend their time playing on beta so they can plan ahead in events. They help Inno with their participation, events would not be possible without beta testers so I don't think Inno will treat them like this.
 
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